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7-Plus-NGM Digest January 2006
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:16:48 -0000
From: "greg"
Subject: Re: Two Feet in The Snow.
Dennis,
Wishing you well, in the new year and thanks for the clip. It was like 1/2 a shot of good whiskey; so good, but so little...
Best regards,
Greg B.
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:34:09 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Weston Park 2005
I got this link from Trevor Heath and thought some (most) of you would like to take a butchers.
http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/mainindx/mini/westonpk/xmas2004/xmas2004.htm
In case you don't know Trevor runs a large web site that caters to the live steaming / large riding railroad hobby http://www.livesteaming.com which is also worth taking a butchers at :-)
Happy New Year all,
kind regards
Dennis, living in Port Alberni BC, Canada
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Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:03:19 -0800
From: "Steve Hughes"
Subject: Re: Re: Two Feet in The Snow.
Greg, I am not certain who was kind enough to send this video to me, but I truly enjoyed it! I hope your Christmas was indeed merry and wish the best for you and your family in the new year!
Steve Hughes
North Bend, WA
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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:00:27 -0000
From: "sharpo_uk"
Subject: Re: Weston Park 2005
You can see photos of last month's event here:-
http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/coppermine/index.php?cat=18
The other "miniature" set of photos you will see is at the Chesterfield & District Model Engineering Society open day last year, although if you look elsewhere in the Gallery you will see plenty of full-size steam train, plus narrow gauge etc.
Compared with my old sites, it is very easy to add photos to the Gallery, so you can expect many more "miniature" photos to be added soon. Didn't realise they were so popular, in fact they're getting more "views" than most of the full-size trains.
Sharpo.
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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:00:49 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Weston Park (Proper Link)
Hi all,
Somehow I lost the original post from Trevor (too quick a file move and presto file is gone) so I went and thought I'd found what he had sent; seems I was wrong. The actual link is below, the benefit is you get to
see more steamers on an even colder winter day.
http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=105
kind regards
Dennis, living in Port Alberni BC, Canada
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Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:31:26 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Help Needed
Hi list and especially Boyd.
A while back I mentioned that I needed a part or my compressor and the woes I was having getting a $20.00 +/- part delivered to Canada for under $50.00 delivery. Boyd came to my rescue and I now have the part
safely sitting on my work bench and about to be installed. I think I owe you more that just a TM Hamburger but we will decide that next June. Thanks for taking the time to help me out and thanks again for actually having the correct part. Needless to say high resolution images of the part laying on the envelope with the actual postage amount showing have been sent to those involved with the original scam.
kind regards
Dennis, living in Port Alberni BC, Canada
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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:15:01 -0000
From: "sharpo_uk"
Subject: WPR 2004 photos
The photos from last month proved very popular, so I have started sorting through those from Dec 2004 and the first 28 have been added to the Gallery, more will follow later today.
Sharpo.
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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:09:25 -0000
From: "sharpo_uk"
Subject: Re: WPR 2004 photos
Following on from the earlier message, the Dec 2004 photo upload is now complete, at 78 photos.
Hope you enjoy them as much as I did whilst sorting through them these last few hours.
http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=108
If they are viewed in the order they were taken, it is interesting to see how the light changes - dull at the start of the day (ideal for the shadier parts of the line) then full sunshine for the really colourful shots, finally, as all the line is in shade & it gets cooler, the steam begins to show more.
Get your viewing in quick, as I still have spare bandwith during this current billing month, which finishes in a couple of days.
Sharpo.
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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:40:07 EST
From: Jubilatede@aol.com
Subject: Re: Coal FYI
Re: Coal FYI:
I am glad I checked my e=mail. Caught your e=mails, (one almost lost -the one with the mandate to call people.0 And i do admire your tenacity in trying to reform me - that last line was a winner. ' be brief - ...) (and to the point")
Dream on1
Cam
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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:46:12 -0500
From: Arno Martens
Subject: Re: Re: WPR 2004 photos
They are truly great photos. Thanks for sharing with us.
I know you said this new site is easier to handle when adding photos.
I am viewing with W98SE 1024 x 768 and I must click the vertical scroll bar to see most of the picture but worse, the horizontal scroll bar must be used to get to the 'next' button.
When first looking at your 2004 pictures in the link given by Dennis
http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/mainindx/mini/westonpk/xmas2004/xmas2004.htm I was very pleased with the screen appearance of the pictures.
Matter of fact I wanted to eMail and ask what software you were using as I have never had a more pleasant experience looking at sequential photos on the web. With [F11] engaged I can see the whole picture as
well as the backward / level up / forward buttons.
I know that if it becomes a pain in the lower back the ease of adding/uploading pictures will win out but I would still appreciate hearing about the older software used.
Thanks again,
Arno
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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:56:58 -0500
From: Kenneth Chenard
Subject: Re: Re: WPR 2004 photos
http://tinyurl.com/9vsvx
Is a link to the preserved 4266 which appears in the following photos 31, 47, 65, 66/78
Hope you enjoy them as much as I did whilst sorting through them these last few hours.
Enjoyed very much the track construction and signaling were also very interesting.
Ken
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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:29:19 -0000
From: "sharpo_uk"
Subject: Re: WPR 2004 photos
Thanks for the comments Arno,
I understand what you say about the layout of the old site, everything did fit on the screen very well.
The software came free with a computer magazine about 4 or 5 years ago, so it was nothing special. I gradually developed the appearance of the pages to give the best appearance on the screen, but it only ever was "basic" & my options were limited.
I'm pleased you use the F11 option, that does help, with my version of IE it is also possible to "auto hide" the browser that is left at the top of the screen, meaning the Gallery goes to the very top of the screen. Another tip is to change your "theme" to "eyeball", it's a bit of a shock at first to have a black background around the
photos, but you will find the photos fit in better. On my wife's laptop (which is the same screen size as yours) I don't find viewing the photos too difficult, from memory, I think touching the arrow down key once (or twice?) gives a full view of a photo, then arrow up once & click the next button & you are away. Hope it helps you.
Have you experimented with the other options of the Gallery? "Searching" for photos, or viewing an album with the photos in title order - that is where the Gallery software comes out tops. What used to take me about half a day to write now takes much less than an hour to upload, now you know why I like it.
I can probably find a copy of that old "free" software if you really want it?
Sharpo.
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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:39:10 -0000
From: "sharpo_uk"
Subject: Re: WPR 2004 photos
Thanks Ken,
I ought to add a link to that photo from the Gallery. Only this evening I was re-designing the WPR page (not in the gallery, but the page it links to) and was listing the locos that were seen at both of the events, in an ideal World I would list "all" the miniature locos seen in the Gallery, and that will be where the link should go.
Sharpo.
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Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:28:12 -0800
From: Greg Robinson
Subject: Meet Dates Errata
Our apologies to our readers and to the Bittercreek Western for mis-stating the dates for their upcoming meet. The correct information is:
Bittercreek Western RR MLK Weekend Run
January 14 -16, 2006
Arroyo Grande, CA
http://www.bittercreekwesternrr.org/
Hope to see your there.
Sincerely,
Greg Robinson
7+ RAILROADER
The Grand Scales Quarterly
Robinson & Associates
P.O. Box 8953,
Red Bluff, CA 96080
USA
530-527-0141
fax 530-527-0420
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Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:31:57 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Major Model railroad Theft.
Hi all,
I got his from a club member of the Columbus Model railroad Club and thought that we all could watch for the items below for the Contrak Group. All contact details are in the message after my sig lines.
kind regards
Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
FYI to all
Sent: 1/21/2006 8:36:42 AM
Subject: theft of contrak trailer and modules
I have to report that the Contrak trailer and n-trak modules in it were stolen sometime between Tuesday evening and Friday afternoon. The trailer is white, box is 6 ft x 16 ft, no markings on the trailer. license number SPD7909. If anyone sees the trailer or is offered some n-trak modules for sale, please contact me, Craig Sonnen, at casonnen@wowway.com or by telephone 614-871-2601.
Thanks, Craig Sonnen
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Date: 22 Jan 2006 03:23:45 -0000
From: Yahoo! Groups Notification
Subject: New file uploaded to 7-plus-NGM
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your 7-plus-NGM group.
#7 is ready, #10 getting there
two neighbors get a ride.
Made it all the way to Highpoin
Big load goin' up hill to woodshed
Lining up cars for #7 to back up to and go
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Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:17:03 -0800
From: "James Hoback"
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to 7-plus-NGM
Great photos as always.
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James Hoback
Sonora, CA
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:13:05 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"
Subject: Diesel Sound system
Hi all,
Busy planning a pair of six axle units (2" scale) I intend to build shortly. Thinking about sound systems - what do you all use? I want something of reasonable quality that is simple and easy to amplify. There seems to be a number of offerings aimed at our smaller cousins with integrated DCC that would not like the 'noisy' environment we work with.
Also - I have been told New Zealand rail uses a form of one of the Nathan 5 chime units, but any of the samples I have listened to online sound nothing like NZR - Any NZ'rs out there that can throw a bit of light on this?
Chris Draper
Winter Creek Bush Tramway
Auckland, New Zealand
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:28 -0000
From: "Dave"
Subject: Great photo's
I was just thinking to myself last night, haven't seen any photo's on the SR&CL RY lately, and low and behold, some new ones. Thanks for posting very insperational.
Dave
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:25:28 -0000
From: "Tom"
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to 7-plus-NGM
Thanks Jim for the kind words. It was a fun Sunday with the Steam engines.
Tom C.
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:03:50 -0500
From: Arno Martens
Subject: Re: Great photo's
Great shots, Tom.
I don't see any steam coming out of the injector of # 7.
Cheers,
Arno
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:44:36 -0800
From: "James Hoback"
Subject: Re: Re: New file uploaded to 7-plus-NGM
Tom, I can't remember if you are burning oil or coal there. Looks like oil tanks on the back but looks like quite a bit of smoke for oil. Anyway, I can just imagine the ambiance there on a cold crisp day with a drift of oil (or better yet coal) smoke, the aroma of hot steam oil in the air, and the sound of a singing injector. Doesn't get any better than that.
~ Jim
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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:02:32 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Re: Re: New file uploaded to 7-plus-NGM
Jim, That's MICHIGAN, cool is not a known word in MICHIGAN. At this time of the year it's about -25 ambient. :-) Why do you think i moved here to the wet coast. I also agree it looks really good in the pictures. Nice railroad and nice pictures.
kind regards
Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:48:38 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: Digest Number 1381
Jim,
It is coal we burn and it has been warm over there.
In the bottom 30's.
That is great for Jan. in mach.
Injector problem fixed.
Had a leaky check valve.
All is good for now.
Thanks guys for the good words.
Later:
Tom Casper
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Date: 24 Jan 2006 06:47:19 -0000
From: Yahoo! Groups Notification
Subject: New file uploaded to 7-plus-NGM
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of your 7-plus-NGM group.
First steam up at Bitter Creek & Western 1/06
Running @ BC&W 1/06
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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:18:34 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: Digest Number 1382
Cute engine, Scale and gauge?
Later:
Tom Casper
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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:31:54 -0800 (PST)
From: dave schoeffler
Subject: Re: Diesel Sound system
Chris:
Have a look at Dallee Electronics. Their systems are for g-scale but work fine in my 1.5 scale electric. I bought their $100 diesel chip (several other loco choices) along with their $30, 20 watt amplifier. I put a larger 8" speaker in my riding car and a smaller one (left over from a cheap home theater system) in the loco.
Sounds realistic to me and it's powerful when riding. Sound falls off fast, however, as you back off from the train. About 50 feet away, it's pretty light . . .
then again, I haven't heard any other sound systmes to know if this happens to everybody. Sound outside doesn't carry much at all.
Dave
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:38:21 -0700
From: "David Johnson"
Subject: RE: Diesel Sound system
Take a look a Phoenix Sounds 2K2 sound card. It is programable at any time for different locomotives. www.phoenixsound.com All of the rise and fall volumes are programmable with a computer. They also have a
handbook for installation in our large scale locomotive. I am a very satisfied user and a dealer for them.
Regards,
David Johnson
www.ColoradoGandyDancer.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:49:21 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"
Subject: RE: Diesel Sound system
Thanks Guys - will investigate the products suggested.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:46:35 -0800
From: "Daniel F. Morris"
Subject: Phone Scam (Off Subject)
To All;
While there has been listings advising of possible phone scams, there is also additional info available that maybe of interest to all. I write Live Steaming In The Pacific Northwest & also our local Ham Radio Club
page On the radio club site, there is a page called "Computer Corner".
The listing tells of different problems and possible fixes. I have presently added new info on this subject to this page. This info comes from none other than Dan Dawdy, author of Cyberspace World Railroad &
Chicago Metra's Web pages. You surely don't need be a Ham Operator to appreciate the info shown on our W7SKY's web page. Feel to stop by anytime and see the latest information about computers & related
problems/fixes.
www.w7sky.org
Dan Morris
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:50:54 +0200
From: "Johan"
Subject: Asbestos rope or string?
Hi Group, I'm a lurker and seen that a lot of valueble info has been received and given to, by various members. This encouraged me to pose this question:
Where could I purchase "Asbestos" or "Equivelant" type, of rope or string. I need between 5/16" and 1/4" diameter by approx. 6 - 8 meters in lenght.? I'm in the process of completing a 7 1/4" Gauge, Sugarcane Livesteam Loco. I need the above, to wrap around the Regulator" pipes that run on the outside of the boiler (both sides), from behind the "Dome" to the Cylinders' valve intakes, between the frames, below the smokebox. Thanking you in anticipation :-) Any info would really be appreciated.
Take care,
Johan Pretorius.
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:07:17 EST
From: vsons@aol.com
Subject: Check Wood Stove Dealers? - WAS Re: Asbestos rope or string?
I think that "Asbestos" rope may still be used in some wood stoves for sealing the doors, so you might inquire at a local stove dealer to seewhether they have anything that would meet your needs.
Jeff Semprebon
Claremont, NH
USA
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:01:36 -0500
From: Michael Guy
Subject: Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Johan,
First thing is to avoid asbestos in any loose fibre form. I solved this problem on my locomotive by wrapping the offending pipe in black solid-braided polyester "string". It looks fine, does the job of insulating quite as well as asbestos, takes paint well and won't give you lung cancer. I would look in a local marine supply for this kind of small quantity. Regards, Michael Guy Toronto
--
Michael's Locomotive Pages: updated November 23rd 2005
http://home.ca.inter.net/~mguy
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:56:02 -0500
From: "Grice Dale-MGI1833"
Subject: RE: Check Wood Stove Dealers? - WAS Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Jeff,
I suspect Mcmater-Carr would have what you are looking for. Online @ www.mcmaster.com. We buy the same type of thing, flat for sealing our smokebox on our locomotive at the Southeastern Railway Museum.
Dale
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:04:43 -0500
From: RichD
Subject: Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Johan,
Ordinary COTTON twisted string works very well. I look for the fine, hard, tight twisted kind. This has very little fuzz. It looks like miniature rope. Comes in a ball. Wrap tightly around the tube packing tight as you
go. Also the direction you wrap matters as you will find one way tends to untwist the string. Go the other way. Keep the twist tight. Wind on 2 layers if you want. Coating the tube with contact cement beforehand (let dry) may help. Coated with water glass (sodium silicate) or paint seals it nicely. Good for 130 PSI in my experience on a well traveled Atlantic loco. RichD
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:55:40 +0800
From: "Johan Pretorius"
Subject: Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Hi Michael and Rich,
Luckily I do live in a coastal City, Durban, on the East Coast of South Africa. Thanks again, I will let you know how I progressed.
Take care,
Johan.
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 05:01:02 +0800
From: "Johan Pretorius"
Subject: Re: Check Wood Stove Dealers? - WAS Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the info. I found a good solution from Michael Guy and RichD. The materials they prescribed, are much safer than "Asbestos".
Thanks again,
Johan.
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 05:08:25 +0800
From: "Johan Pretorius"
Subject: Re: Check Wood Stove Dealers? - WAS Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Hi Dale,
Gosh! :-)
Thanks for the reply and info regarding Mc Masters. I went to the website and found that they have over 430,000 items. I am sure that they will have what I need, however I will have to find a name for the stuff. I have received info from Michael Guy and will first pursue that avenue.
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:59:12 -0500
From: bruceodelberg@netscape.net
Subject: Re: Check Wood Stove Dealers? - WAS Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Johan,
If you want to try McMaster Carr, look for catalog # 4057K1 (page 3307).
This is an Adheasive Back Ceramic Fiber, 1 inch wide by 1/32 thick. If you are wrapping a pipe, overlap the layers as you wrap. In this same area of the catalog, they have other thicknesses and widths (with and without adheasive back), along with sheets of ceramic fiber, cork , fiberglass, etc.
Bruce
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:14:39 -0600
From: "Bill Laird"
Subject: Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Johan,
Check Vintage Steam Products at:
http://www.vintagesteamproducts.com/related_links.html
Go the the catalog page and click on Insulation. There are several products that might meet your requirements.
Bill Laird
Chief Mechanical Officer
Texas Republic Railroad
"Route of the Yellow Rose"
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:50:06 -0000
From: "Jeff Badger"
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1382
Tom & others, the locomotive is based upon Redwood Valley #4 "Fern" a 5" scale 15" gauge locomotive that runs in Berkley, CA. This engine is scaled from that locomotives drawings to 3.75" and makes for a nice bulky
engine. I am now building a proper tender for it.
Jeff Badger
Big Trees Flume & Lumber Co.
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:54:25 -0500
From: dpattonredmesa@netscape.net
Subject: Whistle
I've been working on my 2.5" 2-6-0 and would like to get rid of the earsplitting shrill whistle it came with. Looking at Joshua Tree & Southern web site pictures, I've seen similar engines fitted with larger than scale (but still nice looking) whistles which I assume make a deeper tone. What do you guys use for whistles in our scale?
Thanks :)
Dick Patton
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:37:47 -0700
From: "Chuck"
Subject: Re: Whistle
Check into folded pipe whistles. These can get the pitch down and still keep a scale look.
Folding the pipe by running one inside another to double or tripple the tuned length.
Chuck
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:16:47 +0200
From: "Johan"
Subject: Re: Check Wood Stove Dealers? - WAS Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Bruce, thanks for this info.
Johan.
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:24:48 +0200
From: "Johan"
Subject: Re: Asbestos rope or string?
Hi Bill,
The information received is tremendous.
I thank you for the address to this product seller.
It is a place, "what the doctor has ordered".
Not only for the "string or rope" but lots of other stuff as well. :-)
Thanks ever so much.
Johan.
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:43:23 -0600
From: "Bill Laird"
Subject: Re: Whistle
Dick,
From my own experience and those of friends, folks either make them, modify existing whistles, or buy them. Sources are live steam swap meets and eBay.
I bought an inexpensive "caboose whistle" on eBay. The bell is a bit over an inch in diameter and very short, about 2" long. It gave a very shrill peep when blown and was used by the prototype on the rear of a caboose to
clear grade crossings when doing reverse moves. I simply replaced the short bell with the same diameter brass tube but made it about 8" long and now get a nice tone when it is blown. Several live steam suppliers sell whistle valves.
Bill Laird
Chief Mechanical Officer
Texas Republic Railroad
"Route of The Yellow Rose"
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:49:55 -0000
From: "tankcreek"
Subject: Re: Injectors
Thanks for the suggestions on the whistle pitch question. I can certainly try putting a longer bell on the existing whistle's bowl. And, the suggestion re folding the bell into a longer length sounds interesting.
My next questions is: What are guys using for injectors. My C&S prototype calls for lifting injectors up in the cab. The engine came with a pair of Ohlenkamps mounted down below the cab. In the lower, undercab location they work fine and sing @50- psi. I've experimented by relocating one to it's prototype location up inside the cab and it lifts water great at 100 psi. However, the lowest pressure it will lift water is @90 psi. It will lift at a lower pressure than 90 when the tender water level is near full, but requires the 90 psi to lift the water the farther distance up the inlet pipe when the tender water level is near bottom (I thought it was best to try things with a worst-case situation).
What do you guys use on your locomotives if their prototype calls for a lifting injector up in the cab?
Thanks again. Dick Patton
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:44:06 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: [Injectors] Digest Number 1385
I think all the engines on the Sandy Ridge use a Penberthy 1/4 scale injector.
They work around 70lbs and above whether tender is full or almost empty.
Later:
Tom Casper
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:22:44 EST
From: VANCENICK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Injectors
Superscale injectors are the way to go. I have a pair of the economy type on my loco and they will pick up from a bucket on the ground while on a stand two feet high from 50psi on up. Superscale has a Nathan lifting inj.
but they were a bit pricey and the economy version works fine.
Vance Nickerson
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:42:33 -0500
From: Michael Guy
Subject: Re: RE: [Injectors] Digest Number 1385
Tom, did you make or buy 'em and where from?
Regards,
Michael Guy
Toronto.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:12:33 +0200
From: "Johan"
Subject: Re: RE: [Injectors] Digest Number 1385
Hi Michael,
I apologise for writing under this topic but it was the nearest I could find. I went to our Marine Supplier and found the rope you've mentioned. Thanks again for the information.
Johan.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:26:23 -0500
From: Michael Guy
Subject: Re: RE: [Injectors] Digest Number 1385
Thanks Johan, glad it worked out for you.
Michael.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:25:39 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: [7-pluInjectors-NGM] Digest Number 1386
Jim found his up there. The rest came on their engines. About all I know. Sorry.
Later:
Tom Casper
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:17:58 -0800
From: "James Hoback"
Subject: Re: RE: [7-pluInjectors-NGM] Digest Number 1386
Tom,
If those injectors are Penberthy brand I suspicion they are 3/8" Penberthys (3/8" pipe connections). There used to be some 1/4" size Penberthys but they are more scarce than hen's teeth now days. You can still buy the 3/8" size by "blowing down your wallet". I have not seen any new 1/4" size listed by any suppliers.
For any 2-1/2" size locomotive the Super Scale economy injectors would seem to me to be the best choice. The Super Scale finely detailed injectors are built to 1.6" scale.
Regards,
Jim Hoback
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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:51:37 -0800
From: George Potter
Subject: Re: Re: Injectors
I'm using one of the SuperScale "Economy" Injectors alongside my boiler - in the cab of my 2 1/2" scale American (the injector is about 3" below the top of the boiler (10" steel pipe forms the "wagon top" of the boiler)and lifts down to 50 pounds boiler pressure, or so.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
George Potter
Placerville, California
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:55:59 -0000
From: "tankcreek"
Subject: Injectors
Okay, when the weather warms up, I'll switch out the injector with an 'Economy' one and see how that works.
Thanks all. Dick Patton
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:57:03 -0000
From: "Ralph"
Subject: Florida Live Steamers
Is the weather bad in your part of the country?
Is your engine pouting because it has to stay in the barn?
Its time for our winter meets. Come to sunny Florida and join us.
February 11 & 12, 2006 Florida Live Steam Winter Meet at West Tocoi and Bostwick. Bostwick
February 13 thru 19, 2006 Florida Live Steam Winter Meet at Big Boots and Western
February 18 & 19, 2006 Trade Winds & Atlantic RR (regular run days)
February 20 thru 22, 2006 Florida Live Steam Winter Meet at Manatee Family Lines
February 23 thru 26, 2006 Florida Live Steam Winter Meet at Ridge Live Steamers, Lake Wales
For more information http://www.floridalivesteamers.com
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:31:49 -0000
From: "Frolin Marek"
Subject: Re: Diesel Sound system
Howdy Chris,
In my freelance 4" scale diesel, I have setup a Sierra brand, GP7/GP9 diesel sound board (for garden railroad engines), fed in an 80watt car stereo eq/amp, run out to four 8" speakers, two full range and two woofers. Its sounds really good.
Coming from a indoor Gn3 model railroad background, I took a 'G' scale sound board and put it to a basic car stereo setup. I regulate the 'tone' with the Eq and adjust the volume down to avoid distortion and also, being to loud.
I also tied in to the circuit with a 3 volt tap off my main electronics battery, with some diodes. So that I can turn on the system, which applies 3 volts in to the board, which 'tricks' it to go to an "idling state". The board has "start up" so the engine starts and begins idling. As I increase speed, on my DC motors, the tap goes ot the board and when it exceeds the 3 volts, the motor ramps up to match the volts to motor.
There are several options out there, a couple have been mentioned. Two modern digital options come from the garden railroad arena are...
- Phoenix's 2K2 board, for about $190 to $225. These are maybe the better of the boards, more robust sound, but cost more. They come preloaded with your choice of engine, like a GP7/9, or an Alco, or a 2nd Generation EMD.
You can then reload a different 'main' sound file, to change to a Alco, or EMD, or even a Steam engine (for those electric steamers out there). Plus you have the ability to custom some of the sound options, like Bell Ring Rate, auto horn toots for forward and reverse when you start rolling and much more.
You will need a PC with a "serial" port (many USB to Serial adapters will not work), and their software and cable for these custom loads or changes though. Ignore their new 'P5' unit, its for DCC model train operations only, not DC. Their web-site is at...
http://www.phoenixsound.com
- SoundTraxx 'Sierra' has their original DC garden railroad sound line called Sierra. These boards also come pre-loaded with various choices, EMD, Alco, GE or such. You can not change the prime mover though. But you can customize the sound options as well and directly on the board via a toggle switch or two setup (no PC
needed).
These boards will cost a bit less, maybe $140 to $175. Ignore their DCC line which includes the new Tsunami series, since not much good on DC systems. Their web-site is at...
http://www.soundtraxx.com/products/sierra/sierraindex.htm
I have experience and have both boards, the Sierra in my loco. I am really happy with the unit. I go to meets, 'start' up my diesel and it sits there idling. I get air pop offs, dynamics if I want, and such.
With Sierra, I have my 'bell' set to go on at about 5 volts and off at 8 volts, which means that with a slow but steady knob turn to start the train, I get maybe 4-6 dings before it starts rolling. A personal 'safety' thought for when people are standing around. I have a switch to turn the bell on and off separate.
I do not think that either brand will give you a horn or bell that would replace a real one we have in the larger sizes, but they do come with them and can be triggered with a push button.
If you plan gasoline powered locos, you could build a simple DC train throttle for less than $25 and tie the POT in some how to the throttle cable, to spin as you increase or decrease the throttle.
I enjoy my setup. Think it sounds better idling or running, than the gasoline motors do, but I lack the horse power those guys have at times - ha ha.
Frolin Marek
Marek Mountain Mining
San Antonio, Texas
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:48:06 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: Digest Number 1387
Jim,
They pretty well could be, not much for marking on them. They do use a bigger pipe than 1/4 in.
Later:
Tom Casper
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