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7-Plus-NGM Digest February 2007
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:00:30 -0800
From: "Hobby-Tronics"
Subject: Re: Frost on Rail
Michael,
One of my favorite stories I tell about me and Train Mountain is a frost related story.
I drive over one morning and the whole place is just sparkling with frost from a frezzing fog the night before.
Just beautiful. I push my SW1500 out of my container and fire it up.
I let set and warm up for a while and then I have a seat.
I push the lever forward - NOTHING HAPPENS.
I pull the handle backwards - NOTHING HAPPENS.
I turn off the motor, push it back into the container, and then I do as Boyd suggests, go inside, have another cup of coffee, and wait for the frost to dissipate.
:o)
Russ
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:02:42 -0000
From: "narrowbend"
Subject: Re: Frost on Rail
Thanks, Doug, for the idea. I'll try this out.
Michael
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:12:46 -0800
From: "James Hoback"
Subject: Re: Re: Frost on Rail
Michael,
Several trips over the rail with a full train helped dry it out but sand was usually the only cure for the wet or frosty rail. I have even stooped (literally) to wiping down a short section that was in the shade and taking too long to dry out. ( 8 lb. steel rail )
Regards,
James Hoback
Sonora Short Line Ry.
Sonora, California
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:20:58 -0000
From: "narrowbend"
Subject: Re: Frost
Boyd,
I'm building my own track about two miles east of the Bend club, so there is no one else to notice when I resort to "foot brakes". I've only got a couple hundred feet down so far, but I'm using long ties and it looks like narrow gauge.
Michael
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:28:26 -0000
From: "narrowbend"
Subject: Re: Frost on Rail
Mike,
Thanks for the input. That certainly answers the question of whether more weight will solve the problem!!!
Michael
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:48:03 +1100
From: "George Paxon"
Subject: "bullseye" lubricator
Does anyone know of the where-abouts of a plan or construction article for the old bullseye lubricator. It was a displacement type lubricator located on the backhead that had multiple outputs.
Geo a Paxon
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:43:30 -0800
From: "James Hoback"
Subject: Re: "bullseye" lubricator
Geo,
If you are after the operation of a sight glass displacement lubricator rather than the look of a bullseye lubricator there was an excellent design in the plans for the Lucky 7 Maine 2-footer by the late Don Young.
They worked very well. I built one to use on a Shay.
Regards,
James Hoback
Sonora Short Line Ry.
Sonora, California
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:28:36 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: OT - Petition to preserve the West Side Lumber Co.
Hello logging-fans,
I think nearly every logging-fans will know the name "West Side Lumber CO."
Michael Azzarello from http://www.wsrestoration.com/ has started a online-petition to preserve the last remainders of the WSLC in Tuolumne before they are gone and lost forever.
The owners of the mill-property will start to build a golf-course and hotels at the ground, where Tuolumne's history and existence was founded after the great gold-rush....
The last standing buildings are to old and destroyed to get them saved. But there are plans to build a new structure in style of the old engine-house and installing a museum with original WS equipment.
Please take some minutes to read the petition and sign with your name. Let's use the chance to preserve the last narrow-gauge logging-line in the west.
You'll find the link to the petition on M.Azzarellos side ->
http://www.wsrestoration.com/
Thank you very much,
Gerd
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:51:18 -0000
From: "Terry Liesegang"
Subject: New member
Hello,
I just joined the group. I live in the Phoenix area and I am a member of the Scottsdale live steamers.
I am building a 2.5" scale combine at this time.
I am looking for two pair of arch bar trucks ( 2.5" scale / 7.5" gauge), if you know someone who has them for sale let me know.
Terry
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:25:00 -0600
From: "Thomas"
Subject: Re: New member
RMI has till the end of March their Arch bar trucks at 25% off as well as other items.
Look in the inside front cover of Live Steam Jan/Feb or March/April 2007 issues for their add.
Thomas
MRM
at Monticello, ILLINOIS
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:01:58 -0500
From: bruceodelberg@netscape.net
Subject: Re: New member
I can recommend the 2 1/2 scale arched-bar trucks by craig@microkart.com. These are cast iron, and so they do not have the detail of the RMI trucks; but they look good and work real good. They are very heavy (40 lbs. each) and track well. $495 a pair. Craig is good to work with. He is a small operation (located in Medford, Oregon), and so his products might not always be in stock, ready for immediate delivery. See his ad in the "For Sale" section of Discover Live Steam .
Bruce
Kirkwood, California
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:31:13 +0000
From: Roy Stevens
Subject: RE: New Member
I know a half-dozen suppliers of 2.5" archbars, but wouldn't a pair of Jackson-Sharp passenger trucks be more correct?
Roy
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:10:29 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Trucks
Well while on the subject, does anyone in the northwest have any 1.5 scale trucks? would prefer something other than Tom Bee trucks.
Boyd Butler
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:15:58 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: Lost Valley RR - Workreport Feb 15th
Hello group,
I've added two photos to the photo-section, showing my actual project-progress.
While working on 3 pairs of WW2-fieldrailway-trucks, I welded all frames yesterday and will start to construct parts for the brakes and the journal-boxes this weekend. I think they can roll out of the shops next week.
This photo shows The brass-parts for the journal-boxes, rear and front endbeams, couplers and U-beams.
The rectangular frames are welded and only the center-beam is missing on some trucks. You can also see the first truck finished.
Next month, I'll start to construct 7 turnouts and approx 350' of tracks.
Gerd
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:19:09 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Trucks
I have not personally used any but others have very good luck with them.
Any trouble with most things in this hobby is self induced, that is to say when you over load something it breaks.
The reason why I don't use them is that all of my cars that I build are set up for Cannonball, Mercer or Mountain Car style of trucks, these are just a little different than Tom Bee trucks, a little shorter in where they mount to the car.
So that is why and that only.
I am going to build up two to start with Eastern Machine Works Andrews trucks to see how they work.
I use oil lite bearings which roll fine, if someone tells you different tell that to the car which tried to escape out the other end of my container at TM one day, and the track that is in there is not smooth. I used too large sized screws to hold down the flat bar, this makes a big thunk getting over it. But it bugs a friend of mine who is a real nit picker about track work so I leave it, real nice guy huh?
My military train has been pulled extensively by a medium size steamer all over TM up and down all of the grades without any complaints so pick your bearing style as I am going to stay with oil lite style, cheaper and easier to use for me but that's just me.
Good luck now I need to finish the remodel of the machine shop so I can get my engines ready for the year.
Boyd Butler
up here in the beautiful North West, where the weather is always good
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:22:16 -0000
From: "richard landen"
Subject: RE: Rust in Gas Tank
Sorry - very late answer, catching up on some old mails.
Take a look at http://www.gilesfavell.seriouslyinternet.com/de-rusting.htm
It's a great site generally too.
Best wishes
Richard Landen
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:31:23 -0000
From: "Ed McCamey"
Subject: Re: Rust in Gas Tank
Richard,
Perhaps you can help a Texas guy - what exactly is the sugar soap?
Seems we're separated by a common language!
-ed mccamey-
COSLAR RR
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:14:10 -0000
From: "richard landen"
Subject: RE: Re: Rust in Gas Tank
It's a granular soap - looks like sugar. Commonly used for washing walls before painting them. I'm sure you have something similar!
Funny old thing, language.
Best wishes
Richard Landen
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:24:14 -0800
From: Peter Moseley
Subject: Re: Re: Rust in Gas Tank
Like our TSP? - Tri-sodium-phosphate
Peter Moseley
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:29:07 -0000
From: "richard landen"
Subject: RE: Re: Rust in Gas Tank
Wikipedia says:
"Sugar soap is an industrial cleaning material, with a variable composition and supplied in either powdered or liquid form. The powdered form looks like granulated white sugar, which explains the first half of the name, although sugar soap contains neither sugar nor soap. It is a mixture of basic salts, such as sodium carbonate and sodium phosphate, dissolved in water to form an alkaline solution. It sometimes contains an abrasive such as sodium silicate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_soap
Best wishes
Richard Landen
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:40:38 -0800
From: "Geoff"
Subject: Re: Re: Rust in Gas Tank
This is sounding like TSP (tri-sodium-phosphate). Which would do the job.
Love the language comment.
Geoff
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:38:06 EST
From: douglasandcj@aol.com
Subject: Winter Operations on Outdoor Railroads
Here is a little write up on a recent operation during very inclement Winter weather.
Before anyone makes derogatory comments about winter and operations lets just keep your comments about living where its warm and not having to deal with winter weather out of any discussions after reading about my recent account.
I am a dedicated modeler as well as a real railroader and have lived through many undesirable winter weather conditions and quite frankly find working within the hobby a great way to unwind and enjoy railroading along with the inclement weather.
One day last week after I had arrived home from a not so warm Houston, the operating Superintendent Dale Perry of the Rio Grande Scenic Railway called to ask if I could come out to plow their railroad for operations.
It had been over 6 weeks since anything ran because of accumulated ice and snow and the shippers on the line were to say the least very upset with railway management.
Products needed to be shipped and necessities needed to be received.
I thought about this for about 5 seconds before I responded in the affirmative.
Arrangements were made to open the line by plowing with my locomotive which is equipped for snow fighting along with a pusher locomotive set furnished by the railroad.
I fueled and loaded my locomotive along with a riding car and traveled down to the Rio Grande Scenic on Friday of last week.
The trip took about an hour and all the while I kept thinking this is going to be a real test of man and equipment.
The weather was about 28 degrees but cloudy and very windy.
Wind Chill about 15 degrees.
Upon arriving at the railroad, I was met by the Owner, Gail Gish and the Superintendent.
I was told that the pusher locomotive that I had requested could not be furnished, the turntable was frozen and the locomotive could not be brought out of the roundhouse.
We decided to try to open the line anyway.
I unloaded the locomotive and riding car, I also put on more winter clothes while the locomotive was warming up.
The locomotive has an oversize plow attached to the front pilot along with a rail and flangeway cleaning/clearing brush under the locomotive,
The locomotive is also winterized with roll down canvas shields over the air intakes and a heavy duty battery. I coupled up the rider car, loaded the tools that we thought we would need (rerailing lift, long handled snow shovel and a switch broom) encouraged the Section Hands to accompany us (I knew we would need them, anyway they needed the experience of working outdoors in winter weather) and began what was to be a very long afternoon.
I still wished that we had a pusher locomotive set. It began snowing again and with the wind the new as well as the old snow was on the move and piling up in drifts.
Since the railway had not operated in many weeks care was taken to make sure every turnout we approached was cleaned of snow and ice and lined for our movement.
We made very labored progress encountering higher and longer drifts as we went.
The plow equipment can handle snow about 1 foot deep if it's not packed to hard from drifting.
Many times I had to go as far as I could into a drift and back out when forward progress was stopped by heavy snow.
I backed out and returned to attack the drift again and again until I had broken through.
Finally we reached the bottom of a grade with a curve and a tunnel at the bottom.
We got through to the tunnel and derailed once on the tunnel approach with accumulated leaves under the old snow.
The rerailing lift came in handy and we were glad we brought it along.
Once inside the tunnel, we surveyed the line leaving the other end of the tunnel and was met with snow about 2 to 3 feet deep.
Along with that snow was the fact that there was no where to push the snow as the track was in a narrow cut that was as deep as the snow.
Discussions were had and we made the decision to go back and attack the rest of the railway and leave that portion of the line for Mother Nature to take care of.
Backing up and returning to the division yard would not be easy, while we were working on opening the line Mother Nature was busy trying to close it behind us.
The winds were drifting snow on the tracks we had opened, I was wishing for that pusher locomotive as it would have been in position to clear the snow from the rear of our train as we backed up. We finally made it back, we derailed the rider car once but got it right back on, turned the locomotive on the unloading track and began to open the rest of the railroad.
We experienced one other long cut that was deep and had about 18 inches of snow,
we had to assist the snow plow with a little muscle work with the snow shovels, (glad that we brought the Section hands along).
After we finally opened the line, we could then run and service the shippers.
The drifting snow was easily addressed with the snow fighting locomotive without any further problems.
Finally, with the new snow falling harder then ever and darkness approaching and the lines customers satisfied we made it a day and tied up.
The equipment was loaded and we retired to the back shop area and had warm drinks and cookies and discussed what we had done along with other items of our hobby and the projects we all were working on.
I guessed we had talked long enough as to have allowed the city traffic to clear up so I could have a good trip home.
The trip home took just a little over two hours, twice as long as it had taken for me to travel down.
Traffic was moving very slowly because of the new and blowing snow and at times was even stopped. I had plenty of time to think about what we had done that afternoon and feel good about overcoming natural adversity.
I also had time to think about and plan the completion of a rotary plow that I had started years before but didn't complete for a number of reasons.
I now had firm intentions of completing the rotary.
When I got home I unloaded my equipment, it was heavily snow packed with snow and ice piled up on the locomotive above the headlight and back behind the cab and engine room doors.
It's a wonder the crew was able to get out at the end of the day.
What's this all mean?
I believe that some of us in the hobby take the building of the locomotives and rolling stock along with the track structure very seriously (we still have loads of fun) and try to make our efforts reflect the operations and difficult operating conditions of the prototype.
While we may be in a minority, we can and do appreciate the difficulties of railroading as well as the joys of railroading. What can feel better than having a hobby that allows you to feel good along with putting your everyday problems and stress on a storage shelf for a while while tackling new problems that can be taken as far as one wants to go?
You can enjoy this hobby wherever you are and in any weather you like to be in, as I said no negative comments on just liking to run on sunny and warm days (I do like that as well).
Douglas De Berg
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:04:25 -0800
From: "Geoff"
Subject: Re: Winter Operations on Outdoor Railroads
Great story Doug.
I have done similar days and enjoyed them as well.
It's all part of railroading..
Thanks for the tale.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:49:37 EST
From: douglasandcj@aol.com
Subject: Re: Winter Operations on Outdoor Railroads
Thank you for the kind comments.
Douglas De Berg
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:51:02 -0000
From: "Colt Graham"
Subject: Meg Steam Castings
Hello
Does anyone have or know anyone that has any Meg Steam castings for sale. I have the plans, but I would like to find some of there castings instead of having to fab up everything.
Thanks
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:27:16 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Re: Meg Steam Castings
Try contacting Wellington Foundry Co Ltd 1084 Herring Gull Way Parksville BC, V9P 1R2
Phone: 250-248-0225
Fax: 250-248-0270
At the time of operations Dougal was getting Leigh & Kevin to cast all his works here.
You could try contacting these guys and see if they can supply your needs.
http://www.wellingtonfoundry.com/
No promises I just know that's where Dougal got his stuff so you have nothing but an e-mail to venture and maybe some castings to gain. :-)
If you look at http://www.wellingtonfoundry.com/model_trains.htm you will see he has some castings available but I'm not sure if they are the Wendy group.
kind regards
Dennis, living in Port Alberni BC.
Founding member of the BSMES
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:08:46 -0000
From: "livesteamsteve"
Subject: Narrow Gauge Builders Plans
I am looking for some plans for ETWNC #12 "Tweetsie", the Eureka & Palisades 4-4-0, and the 0-4-2 Baldwin "Olomana" that is currently at the RR Museum of PA.
They could be just a side profile, but I would have to know the critical dimensions (cyl diamter, stroke, bore, driver diameter, etc.) I am looking to start a project in 1.5" NG or 2.5" NG.
Thanks.
Steve
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:25:42 -0000
From: "blunozer2000"
Subject: Re: Meg Steam Castings
I am in the process of building one of MEG Steam's Wendy kits and looking at the website that Dennis suggests shows exactly the cylinder castings that I have. The photo also shows the valve and valve chest castings. The original design had fabricated cylinder heads, but it looks like the foundry may have added castings for them as well, particularly the rear head. It's hard to tell from the photo (which will enlarge if you click in it).
The only other castings in the "kit" were the smoke box front ring and door, which were cast aluminum. Everything else is fabricated. The kit included laser cut main frames, buffer beams, cab floor, drivers (1"
steel plate!!) and some other bits. The best part is the finished, certified boiler weldment, which would have been the part that would have stumped me.
If you have the drawings, and get these castings, you are well on the way to getting one of these neat locos.
Ed Jordan,
Lunenburg, Nova Scotia.
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:33:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Kristina graham
Subject: Re: Re: Meg Steam Castings
I contacted them about the castings.
They emailed me back and asked how many I and what I needed.
Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out what they say.
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:11:57 -0000
From: "wdbarbe"
Subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Builders Plans
Steve,
The Olomana is pretty close to Gene Allen's Chloe.
You can get plans and castings for that.
As for the Eureka, Narrow Gauge and Shortline Gazette has had line drawings for narrow gauge Baldwin 4-4-0's in the past.
They probably have the ETWNC #12 as well.
There is a web site, http://www.railpub.com/, that sells back issues of that magazine.
You would just have to do a search to find out which ones you need.
If you decide to do the 4-4-0 in 2 1/2 scale, I would be interested to hear about it.
Bill
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:26:52 -0000
From: "livesteamsteve"
Subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Builders Plans
The engines I've mentioned are on a list of possible ideas I would like to eventually model.
I just want to see what is out there as far as plans/castings.
The other engine that interests me is a Brazilian narrow gauge 4-4-0 outside frame with Walschearts valve gear.
( http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=45885)
Steve
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:50:46 -0000
From: "Frolin Marek"
Subject: SR&CL photos - Feb 07
Folks,
I received some new photos from Tom Casper last week, and have loaded to my web-site in my SR&CL section (under Tom's pictures section)...
http://www.frolin.net/mmgs/srcl/index.html
These show train activity on February 10th and 11th, with snow and steam. Hauling firewood and an excursion run?
Frolin Marek
Marek Mountain Mining
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:18:09 -0600
From: "Rick White"
Subject: Re: SR&CL photos - Feb 07
Frolin,
You told me about these back on the 14th and I saved the copies of them then.
Did you just remember that you had not told live steamers on 7+ NG about them until now?
Forgetting things like that is a sign of old timers disease, and you just seem a bit young for that.
Rick White
LCC & FB
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:23:50 -0000
From: "Ralph"
Subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Builders Plans
Steve,
Live Steam magazine ran line drawings of many of these narrow gauge engines in 1975 to 1979 there is a complete set of drawings for Don Youngs "lucky 7" (2-4-4)starting in 1977 in 1 1/2" gauge.
hope this helps.
Currently designing Sandy River and Rangley Lakes #5 (0-4-4)in 2' gauge (f(full scale)If I can help feel free to contact me
Ralph Reese
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:36:20 EST
From: douglasandcj@aol.com
Subject: Rock Creek Railway Web Site
All, here is the web site address for the railroad:
http://groups.msn.com/RockCreekRailwayCompany
If you get a chance log into it, join up if you are not a member.
Lets start discussions on motive power and track issues or whatever you would like to discuss as it relates to Live Steam Railroading.. The site has not been active since the last couple of years of illness and we woul like for the site to be helpful to everyone.
We can also talk about the few products we offer, and begin to add photos of the railway and the products.
Doug
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:54:43 -0000
From: "Frolin Marek"
Subject: Re: SR&CL photos - Feb 07
No Rick, actually Tom often posts the photos in the Yahoo folder and posts a message about them. I figured me may have gotten busy, so as a courtesy to Tom, I waited for his posting. But gather a week later he has not so maybe got busy - did not want to step on toes or jump the gun and make a bad assumption.
Frolin
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:58:28 -0600
From: "Rick White"
Subject: Re: Re: SR&CL photos - Feb 07
Frolin,
That means that I am getting forgetful, downloading the photos from 7+ NG group and not even remembering.
Rick White
LCC & FB
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:07:23 +0100
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Bob Richardson
Date: Feb 24, 2007 2:13 PM
From: Charles Getz
Subject: [Southwest_Narrow_Gaugers] Bob Richardson
Sorry to report that early this AM, Bob Richardson, Narrow Gauge pioneer, founder and former ED
of the Colorado RR Museum and authority on all things narrow gauge died at age 96.
He was healthy
until the last few days when he apparently developed either pnuemonia or kidney problems.
Bob was
always concerned about ending up in a rest home according to long time friend Gordon Chappell, so
his passing was mercifully brief.
His death leaves a void in the memory of Narrow Gauge.
I will miss my correspondence with Bob, his wonderful stories, and the fount of knowledge on the RGS. Bob
was there!!
So do not grieve too much for Bob; he's already been to Heaven!
Charlie Getz
Hubert
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:12:46 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: Lost Valley RR - Workreport Feb 27th
Hello,
I've finished my trucks and also the first two carbodys. I've added photos to my folder in the photo-section.
The trucks are painted - Two pairs are shown in the storage-room
Just startet two large dump-cars
Finished dumpcars in the backyard
The rear side. This cars can tip only to one side.
Dumping the load.
Cars like this has been used a german light railway in Saxonia ( http://www.waldeisenbahn.de/en/index.htm) to transport coal and clay.
This weekend, I'll start to assemble more tracks and some switches.
I'll report, when first trackpieces are ready.
Gerd
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:44:43 EST
From: douglasandcj@aol.com
Subject: Lost Valley work report 27 Feb
Thanks for the photos, the cars look great. What are the bodies made of? I can use two of these cars on the Rock Creek.
Douglas G. De Berg
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:00:25 EST
From: douglasandcj@aol.com
Subject: german light railway in Saxonia
Gert, the Saxonia site is good. It appears to be a great place to visit.
Douglas G. De Berg
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:56:09 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: Re: Lost Valley work report 27 Feb + Muskauer forest railroad
Hello Douglas,
What are the bodies made of?
I've used simple plywood for the tippers, with iron fittings. They are constructed for rough use. My first wooden dump-cars has been constructed by using a steel-frame with mounted seperate boards.
The tippers are mounted to a frame-bridge out of 20x30mm wooden bars with three crosswise connectors out of the same material. The bars are fixed with rods and nuts.
Gerd, the Saxonia site is good. It appears to be a great place to visit.
The Muskauer forest railroad in Saxonia was once a realy impressiv system of 2ft gauged railroad. More then 30 miles of track has been layed around the town of Weisswasser (means "white water").
By visiting the german version of the side, you'll find some more photos and also a system-maps.
Here is a direkt link, showing the complete system:
http://www.waldeisenbahn.de/bahn/images/kartehist.gif
The red lines are old tracks that have gone. Only the green parts are still existing, while the dark-green is open for tourist-trains and the light green only for special runs.
In the glory days, the railroad operates 11 locomotives and more than 500 cars.
Gerd
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:17:57 EST
From: douglasandcj@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Lost Valley work report 27 Feb + Muskauer forest railroad
Thanks for the information on the dump cars. I am almost convinced to build two cars in somewhat similiar fashion. I guess the plywood surfaces may in time need replacing but that may be many years out. Again thanks and I've been through the web site on the Saxonia and read it's history from it's beginning up to present day. Quite an impressive little backwoods narrow gauge railway.
I'm going to retain the information and maybe someday make a visit to the little railway.
Douglas De Berg
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