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7-Plus-NGM Digest April 2007
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 09:49:58 -0000
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hello together,
last month, Gerd reported about the track construction for his Lost Valley Railroad.
This track is also for use at the Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008 ff.
During the indoor-show 2007, for the first time a special 2' narrow-gauge-area was set up into the dual-gauge-layout, and this was really fun to operate and interesting for the visitors.
And with this success, it was planned to expand the narrow-gauge-area and to improve the operation-possibilities.
So, Martin and Gerd worked together, built the portalbe track and developed a possible track-plan.
Last week, this track-plan was approved by the Malu-Bahn, which is in charge for the hall 4, where all the 7.25" models operate together with the 5" narrow-gauge.
Although it is 5" narrow gauge, I think, it is interesting for some of you.
So, I took the track-plans, made translations and put all together into a PDF-File, which you can find under
http://www.7-plus-ngm.org/2007/bilder/sinsheim2008.pdf
Enjoy.
Your moderator
Hubert from Germany
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 08:36:35 -0700
From: "Hobby-Tronics"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hubert,
Did the guys take some construction photos?
I would be interested in seeing them if possible.
Otherwise, a bunch of trackside photos during the event would work for me.
Thanks.
Russ
Chiloquin, Oregon
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:45:16 -0400
From: Arno Martens
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
What a huge project.
Congratulations to all of you.
Just a little bit more and there maybe Train Mountain German Edition 2010 !
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Cheers,
Arno
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:05:41 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hello Russ,
Gerd, who is a member of our group, is the driving force behind this project, together with Martin from Poland (he only works their near the border to Belorussia, he is a german).
I hope, that Gerd will give some more informations.
You can find pictures from the track building and the 2007 Sinsheim-show regarding the Feldbahn-BW under
http://www.gerds-modellbahn.de/Feldbahn/eng/index.htm
The whole project is called the ARGE >>5" - Feldbahn-BW<<, which translate into Team 5" - Light Railroad Depot.
You can find special pages regarding this team and project - sadly only in german - under http://www.gerds-modellbahn.de/Feldbahn-BW/
At the moment, their are 4 people involved regarding the building and trackside details, and 4 people (3 are the same, one is different) are coming with engines and cars.
Gerd and Martin report regularly on the german steamforum under
http://www.dampfbahner.net/wbb2.
Sadly, you have to be registered for reading, and the forum is only in german.
Hubert
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:16:12 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hello Arno,
What a huge project.
Congratulations to all of you.
Thank you from the one, who at this time only participates with the Struever Kuli, and this engine was built by Gerd. Last year, during his change in scale, he sold it to me ;-)
Just a little bit more and there maybe Train Mountain German Edition 2010 !
I don't think, that we ever will be able to compare with Train Mountain.
We do not have the needed space, the needed money and the needed volunteers for a layout of this size.
Hubert
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:26:23 -0700
From: "Hobby-Tronics"
Subject: Re: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hubert,
Thanks for the cool links.
I do have one comment though, I'm sure Quentin would never approve of that bridge over the track! :)
As always wonderful models and very creative ways of enjoying our hobby.
Only a couple of more weeks to our first Narrow Gauge Meet. Snow is gone, track maintainance has started, can't wait - should be fun!
Russ
Chiloquin Oregon
Train Mountain
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 16:50:50 -0500
From: "Bill Laird"
Subject: RGS#1 - The Original "Galloping Goose"
I just posted a few photos in the group photo section under the album "RGS#1 - The Original Galloping Goose" of my recently completed 3" scale gas mechanical replica of the first Rio Grande Southern "Goose", RGS#1.
3" scale gas mechanical RGS#1 at Maricopa Live Steamers Spring 2007 Meet
Close view of the front of RGS#1
Side view highlighting the graphics on RGS#1
Owner/builder of RGS#1 at MLS Spring Meet 2007, Phoenix, AZ
I took the "goose" to the Maricopa Live Steamers Spring 2007 Meet in Phoenix, AZ and had a great time running it without problems over their 8+ miles of track (http://www.maricopalivesteamers.com/).
The "goose" is powered by a 5 HP Honda horizontal gas engine with a centrifugal clutch. The clutch is connected to a simple forward/neutral/reverse lawnmower type transmission from Surplus Center (http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2007040302445555&item=13-1230&catname=) by chain and sprocket.
The output of the transmission drives the rear axle by sprocket and chain.
I heavily relied on Tim Mula's "Quick Book" on RGS#1 and photos I took of the full size replica of RGS#1 at the Ridgeway Railroad Museum. Custom graphics on the "goose" were done by Connie Miracle, Miracle Railroad Products (http://home.comcast.net/~miraclerailroadproducts/home.html).
I have lots of photos of the Ridgeway Railroad Museum (http://www.ridgwayrailroadmuseum.org/motor1.html) RGS#1 replica and my own construction photos if anyone is interested in more details.
Bill Laird
Canyon Lake, TX
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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:54:06 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Re: RGS#1 - The Original "Galloping Goose"
Hello Bill,
congratulations, a wonderful model of #1.
What would that be interesting to get all the Goose-models, which are out their, together for a meeting. And with all the other narrow gauge trains, that would be fantastic.
Greetings from your moderator
Hubert from Germany
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Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:50:07 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hello Russ,
it seems, that my first reply got lost in cyberspace :-(
Thanks for the cool links. I do have one comment though, I'm sure Quentin would never approve of that bridge over the track! :) As always wonderful models and very creative ways of enjoying our hobby.
Which bridge do you mean? The movable turning bridge in this photo:
If so, why not?
This isn't freelance, it has a prototype on 2' farm-railroads and was used to connect temporary tracks on the farms with the mainline. This bridge is layed on the track, the cars are switched, and than the bridge is removed.
Only a couple of more weeks to our first Narrow Gauge Meet.
Snow is gone, track maintainance has started, can't wait - should be fun!
I'm sure, it will be fun, and I'm really sad, that I cannot participate. But no chance for financial reasons, it's to expensive to come over.
I'm with you all in my mind during the meet, and please think of me, when you are enjoying all the nice narrow gauge models.
Greetings from Germany
Hubert
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:14:44 -0700
From: "Hobby-Tronics"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hubert,
This is the bridge I was talking about. :)
Quentin's bridge rule is that HE must be able to walk under it! :)
Russ
Chiloquin, Oregon
Train Mountain
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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:39:12 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hello Russ,
now I know, what you mean, but I have to say, that this is NOT a bridge.
It's a unloading - ramp, and normally a "broad"gauge car is placed on a track aside the ramp, from where the load of the tipper-waggons is put into the gondola on the broad-gauge-track.
That it was used like a bridge is only caused by the minimal space, we got for the Feldbahn-BW.
So, no rule is broken ;-)
Hubert
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:07:19 -0700
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: VIME Shots
Some shots of the work on the new expansion track at the Vancouver Island Model Engineers track in Saanichton BC.
Compacting the super elevation on the eastern section of the new loop
adding to the sub base of the super elevation prior to compacting.
View back towards the existing railroad to the west.
kind regards
Dennis, living in Port Alberni BC.
Founding member of the BSMES
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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:19:30 -0700
From: "Daniel F. Morris"
Subject: You Tube Video
I was asked at today's Kitsap lunch about the You Tube Videos I have posted.
There are a total of nineteen covering the South Shore, Norfolk Southern, BNSF, & Metra. They can be found by going to http://www.youtube.com/my_videos or look
under css903. I will be posting more as time goes on, hopefully of some of the Live Steam Meets a attend.
Enjoy:
Dan Morris
C.S.S.& S.B. R.R.
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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:50:03 -0000
From: "garrattguy"
Subject: TRHA website
Hi Folks,
This may be a bit off topic but I hope you will forgive me ...
The Toronto Railway Historical Association is pleased to announce the inauguration of its new website at:
http://www.trha.ca
At present, the site is devoted mostly to the activities of the TRHA and the plans for the Toronto Railway Heritage Centre (a.k.a. Toronto Railway Museum) but there is plenty to see for those who are just interested in Toronto railway history.
It is our intention to expand the historical section in the next several months, in effect creating a virtual museum, as development finally begins on the bricks and mortar museum.
Regards,
Michael Guy
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:32:37 -0500
From: "Bill Laird"
Subject: Jack Lucks
Many of you may know Jack Lucks of Ft. Worth, Texas. Jack is a long time live steamer and member of the Annetta Valley and Western RR and Southwestern Live Steamers. Jack is not doing well. The following is an e-mail sent out by his longtime close friend and next door neighbor, Tom Stamey. I urge all of you who know Jack to send him a card, let him feel the love in the fraternity of live steam.
I don't hardly know how to start this because I have become quite emotional about it.
But, I guess the best thing to do is come right out and tell you that Jack is in pretty bad shape.
He's been having health problems for several months and in the last month or so they have become much worse.
Doctors fear he has cancer of either the pancreas, stomach, or liver or any combination of them.
Tests are due back Monday to give them an idea where it is and how to treat it, if possible.
Yesterday they drew off several liters of fluid from his stomach area with has helped lessen pain that has really bothered him for the last few weeks. He has lost about 30 lbs and his strength and stamina have gone to the bottom fairly fast.
When you combine that with the loss of most of his sight it is really a sad situation. He can no longer drive a vehicle.
He informed me a couple of weeks ago that he would no longer run an engine because he could not see well enough to read a water glass and did not want to ruin his engine or endanger anyone.
What hurt him most is that he would "miss all the great people" he had come to know because of the live steam hobby.
I, his wife Shirley, and his daughter Barbara, hope that his illness is treatable and we steadfastly hold out hope for that.
Jack is very week and I ask that you not try to call him in the hospital.
He catnaps for sleep and some of the testing really zaps him.
Cards to him thru his home address of 3025 Choctaw Trail, Ft Worth 76116 would cheer him, I am sure.
He thought a lot of all of you.
Tom Stamey
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:57:57 -0500
From: "Bill Laird"
Subject: Re: [Narrowgaugebuilders] Re: Jack Lucks
Thanks for the offer, but I am afraid it has gone beyond the point where he would get any enjoyment out of them. We learned today that the cancer is untreatable and he went home today under the care of Hospice. He is also almost blind from an unrelated illness. Best all who know Jack can do is send him a card and keep he and his family in your prayers.
Bill Laird
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:38:12 -0000
From: "locomotive112"
Subject: 1995 video "IBLS Plus 4"
Do any of you guys have a copy of the video "IBLS Plus 4" offered in LIVETEAM magazine in 1995?
I would like to purchase it or I can trade you one of a number of VHS narrow gauge railroad titles for it.
Thanks Guys (and gals if we have any)!
Loco112
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:38 AM
From: "locomotive112"
Subject: Re: Boiler Assistance
Technical question on boiler construction. Trying to work out how to penetrate the front tube sheet with a throttle rod and the dry pipie. Should I weld in steel bush and thread the bush and use brass pipe connections or
could I thread the 10 mm thick tube sheet and get a good seal when using brass fittings? Any ideas from those of uyou who have previously plowed this groun?
Geo A Paxon
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:10:20 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: Re: Sinsheim Indoor Live Steam Festival 2008
Hello Hubert,
many thanks for your posts about our project.
I've spend some nights the last days, and updated the project-website and added a english version.
You can visit our website at www.feldbahn-bw.de.ki
At the moment, I've some troubles with the turnouts. It seams, that they have twisted during welding the ties to the rails. Now, I'll have to remove all wooden ties and arrange each turnout before I can complete them finaly.
Gerd
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:16:09 -0600
From: Chuck
Subject: Re: Re: Boiler Assistance
What size fittings are you planning to use.
If they are under 12mm you should be fine just tapping the sheet.
Larger fittings may need to be welded/brazed/silver soldered.
Can you access the sheet from the inside to put a threaded insert turned with a lip on the OD? Put a threaded
(ID) fitting in a lathe, turn the OD down to leave a larger lip at the bottom end. Insert in a hole in the sheet with larger end on the inside and silver solder from the outside? You may be able to tie a cord through hole and pull it into place. You may be able to use an OD nut on the insert with no welding. This worked well to replace the melt plug in the crown sheet of a 1913 CASE.
Chuck
Riverview & Twin Lakes RR
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:04:47 -0600
From: "Mike Decker"
Subject: RE: Re: Boiler Assistance
Hi George:
On our 15" gauge welded boilers at Sandley's, we used a packing gland that was welded to the front tube sheet for our dry pipes. Depending on the size of the boiler, the tube sheet was 3/8" or 1/2" thick. The packing gland
allowed the dry pipe to expand and contract separately from the boiler.
Best,
Mike Decker
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:19:52 -0800
From: "James Hoback"
Subject: 12" gauge Pacific
Several years ago, like about 1992(+-), I sold a 12" gauge Pacific "pile of parts" to Larry Goldsby of Detroit, MI.
It had an unfired (new) certified boiler built by East Bay Boiler in Oakland, CA in about 1955 as I recall.
I have often wondered what happened to that locomotive and if it was ever put back together.
The locomotive was originally built in the Midwest by a university class I was told.
That could be a wives tale.
It was later bought and operated in the Auburn, CA area by a person named Pickering.
He had passed away by the time I bought it.
Does anyone know of this locomotive?
James Hoback
Sonora Short Line Ry.
Sonora, CA
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:32:03 -0000
From: "southern28016"
Subject: Ulin Locomotive Works
List
What is the current price of Mr. Ulin's Catalog? Also, what is the current snail mail address.
Much Appreciated
Cam
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:46:38 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Re: Ulin Locomotive Works
Hello Cam,
sorry, no information regarding the price for the catalog, but a short google-search brought out the following information:
Ulin Locomotive Works
1160 Lilac St.
Broomfield, CO 80020
(303) 466-8241
-Plans & castings, Mason Bogie Locomotive
Greetings from Germany
Hubert
Moderator of the 7-plus-ngm - mailing list
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:14:58 -0500
From: "Rick White"
Subject: Re: Ulin Locomotive Works
From Richard Ulin's ad in the Train Mountain Gazette of April, 2007, the following info is taken:
Ulin Locomotive Works
1160 Lilac Street
Broomfield, CO 80020
303-466-8241
Catalog with video: $17 post paid in lower 48 states of USA.
If you get to see the Riding Railway University Vol 3 and 4 you will hear some good words about his K-27. The ad in the Mountain Gazette is for his C&S 2-8-0.
Rick White - PS, Richard Ulin in the past has not used e-mail or the web.
So do use snail mail or the phone.
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:45:50 EDT
From: Southern28016@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ulin Locomotive Works
Rick and Hubert
Thank you for your replies.
Much Appreciative,
Cam
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:51:13 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Rich Ulin
Yes he does not use computers as that way he doesn't waste time on them like we do. He is working on some narrow gauge cars for a fellow when I called him a week or two ago. At the pace he goes who knows how many he has built by now as I said fiddling on these things like we do slows him down.
Boyd.
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