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7-Plus-NGM Digest April 2009
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:16:00 -0000
From: "narrowbend"
Subject: Re: Forney planning
Roy,
I realize you are planning to build something heavier and more modern, and want to ride in the fuel bunker, but I wanted to point out that the first two two foot gauge locomotives in America were actually cab forwards, the Ariel and Puck built by Boston's Hinkley works for the Billerica and Bedford RR, and they were cute as a button with their pointy cowcatchers on the fuel bunkers and oil headlamps above the cabs. Since an electric locomotive could be controlled from the car behind, this design is better made electric than live steam. Plans for these locomotives appear in many books, including Linwood Moody's The Maine Two Footers and Cornwall and Ferrell's Ride the Sandy River. More to the point of your issue, I see from the plan the rear truck simply pivots and the rear, well in this case the front, driver is blind. With a wide enough thread this would work for a short wheel base engine. Again, I realize none of this is likely relevant to what you're planning, but it may ins
pire a project of my own someday.
Michael in Bend, Oregon
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:57:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: srcl24@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Forney planning
Roy,
Be prepared to notch the frame to get the truck swivel, you will need, or the frame will have to be above the wheels to go around your sharp curves.
We found there wasn't enough travel in the Don Young design of the bolster and the wheels would hit the frame before we notched it. Had to do a major rework on the swing motion to get more. The Forney has a ball that goes into a pocket on the truck and that pocket couldn't move enough for our 75 ft radius. I suggest you have the frame above the trucks as that would be simplest but wouldn't give you that low 2ft NG look.
Later;
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoffrey Kail
Subject: Re: Forney planning
How about using a smaller diameter wheel on the truck?
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:02 +0000
From: Roy Stevens
Subject: Re: Forney planning
Thank you for your reply. I'm completely unfamiliar with the ball-pocket method, is there some photos or drawings out there I could get ahold of?
Roy
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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:24:42 -0000
From: "Frolin Marek"
Subject: SR&CL Rly - new photos loaded
Howdy,
A quick note to say, have loaded some more photos on the 'Sandy Ridge & Clear Lake Railway' website...
http://www.srclry.com/
Includes recent work on Diesel 25, adding sandboxes to the front and rear, along with the CLL Shay 4 steamed up in February to bring in some firewood.
FYI
Frolin Marek
SR&CL web-master
PS: there was Runs over the holidays but few/no pictures taken, seems cameras were not the focus - more time at having fun I guess.
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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:24:28 -0500
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: Re: Forney planning
Roy,
I think the ball and socket is a Don Young design. I don't know of any pictures of that. It is similar to a trailer
hitch to hold the truck to the engine without the latch.
See if you can find any articles on building his engine.
Later:
Tom C.
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:44:52 -0000
From: "CSC"
Subject: Re: SR&CL Rly - new photos loaded
Thanks Frolin! Those guys are my inspiration. =)
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:53:15 -0000
From: "edgarcorny"
Subject: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Hi,
I am still having troubles with the publisher on "Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges" (CEv2). I would like to get this book released, but the publisher is the delay. They can not figure out what the upgrade charge is to go from black and white printing to color.
I am wondering how many railroaders would be willing to have the book printed and comb bound by me (like the Railroad Supply manual or some letter sized calendars) and how many have to have a formally bound book like CEv1.
I am still looking at a volume 3 if I can get a volume 2 into print.
All opinions are welcome.
Thanks.
Doug
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:24:10 +0000
From: Phil Ashworth
Subject: RE: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Doug,
I'd take it in comb bound form if that's what ws needed to get a copy!.
I edit a magazine in the UK and interestingly enough the printer runs the whole thing through in colour, even pages that are b&w. He says its more efficient and easier for him than phaffing about changing settings etc !! ..
Would be cheaper having it printed as, say, an a4 magazine or some such, or the way a catalogue is printed?
best wishes and good luck
Phil Ashworth
Oxford England
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: henry coleman
Subject: RE: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
I'd take it comb-bound too if need be, looking forward to seeing it...
Henry
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:49:36 -0000
From: "garrattguy"
Subject: Re: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Same here.
Michael Guy
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:54:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bruce Mowbray
Subject: Re: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Doug,
I would be happy to have it comb bound. I have two bridges to build and was hoping the book would be out already for reference. Trains are backing up at the abutments(just kidding about that) Is volume #3 going to cover tunnels? I have one of those to build too.
Bruce Mowbray
Springville, PA
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:05:24 -0400
From: Ralph Reese
Subject: RE: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Doug,
I would buy 1 comb bound now, and 2 whenever the publisher gets his act together. Whats cost, Where do I send Money?
Ralph M. Reese
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:02:52 -0700
From: Jerry Kimberlin
Subject: Re: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Color vs B&W is a printing problem, not a publishing problem. If you are self-publishing (have ISBN #s etc) then all you really need is to get the thing printed.
My wife uses Tiger Press, who can do any size orders, and do them quickly and very well, for instance. She has no problem making changes and getting galleys back in a week or less. Once she gets done with the real work of editing, etc., the printing is a breeze.
http://www.tigerpress.com/
Perhaps it is time to switch printers??
JerryK
Richmond, CA
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:15:55 -0400
From: rghtathome@aol.com
Subject: Re: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
Definitely, interested in CEV2....However it comes...
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:21:16 +0000
From: Roy Stevens
Subject: RE: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
I guess the economic downturn hasn't affected publishers. It certainly has affected machine shops, I can get stuff produced quickly and reasonably with great customer service right now when two years ago I couldn't get them to give me the time of day because I'm not doing large runs.
I think the comb bound books are easier to use than standard bound books anyway, especially when I'm using them for reference rather than reading.
Roy
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:50:03 -0000
From: "metroliner941"
Subject: Re: Civil Engineering for Outdoor Railroads Volume 2 Bridges
I think the spiral bound would be just fine for me. The information inside would be more important. PLus, spiral bound technical books are easier for me to use, as it doesn't keep wanting to close on me as I'm working through data.
Matt Mason
Editor
The Home Railway Journal
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:44:28 -0000
From: "John Oxlade"
Subject: Visiting San Francisco and the UK in Aug-Sep 09
My wife and I are visting the UK via San Francisco and I'd like to find out what railway activities (miniature or otherwise) are going on over the following dates:
San Francisco Sat 22nd & Sun 23rd August
Southern England (say south of the Mersey) Fri 28th Aug - Sun 13th Sept.
Any info would be appreciated.
Kind regards from New Zealand,
John
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:14:24 -0700
From: Jerry Kimberlin
Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco and the UK in Aug-Sep 09
Nothing special is scheduled for that weekend at GGLS. That means that we will be there hauling the public on Sunday, the 23rd. RVRR will also be running as usual. I don't know if anyone will be around on the 22nd, but it is possible, I suppose. It is a little too early now to predict.
Further away is the Niles Canyon Railway, always interesting. Still further away in Felton is the Roaring Camp Railroads.
http://www.ggls.org
http://www.redwoodvalleyrailway.com/rvry%204-09.htm
http://www.ncry.org/
http://www.roaringcamp.com/
Otherwise, there is no end of stuff to see in SF.
JerryK
GGLS Secretary
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:22:58 +1200
From: John Oxlade
Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco and the UK in Aug-Sep 09
Thanks Jerry. I have been to SF several times before but my wife hasn't. She's not really got railways in the blood so I cannot expect her to spend the entire weekend at "train stuff" but she might like Roaring Camp; good idea - and Santa Cruz is interesting.
I just looked athe Redwoods site. Oh boy. I need more time.
Cheers Jerry,
John
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:51 -0700
From: Jerry Kimberlin
Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco and the UK in Aug-Sep 09
Your name is familiar but I don't remember if it just from list correspondence or if I've met you at GGLS.... In any case, there is much in SF to do. We have a new Walt Disney museum opening around August 1st too, at the Presidio. I know Walt's Lilly Belle will be in there eventually, but I don't know if it will be there right at the beginning.
http://disney.go.com/disneyatoz/familymuseum/index.html
Nothing much on their website yet, but tickets go on sale August 1st, supposedly.
I just looked at the Redwoods site. Oh boy. I need more time.
If you mean RVRR, it is at the same place as GGLS. It is 15" gauge, 5" scale. Depending on the engineer that day, we can probably get you a ride on the footplate.
Cheers,
JerryK
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:44:11 +1200
From: John Oxlade
Subject: Re: Visiting San Francisco and the UK in Aug-Sep 09
Footplate ride eh? Now that would be something else. Let's see how that works out.
I have been around for a while but never to GGLS. I have run a number of railway-themed websites for close on 15 years now, so you may have seen my name there. See www.worldrailfans.info
Many thanks,
John
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