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7-Plus-NGM Digest June 2009
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:36:33 -0000
From: "CSC"
Subject: Re: Who Supplies Castings and drawings for a 3-3/4" scale or larger 0-4-0
Bring your checkbook!
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: srcl24@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Who Supplies Castings
Hillcrest shops does larger. Bring checkbook along also.
Later;
Tom C.
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:48:20 -0000
From: "William Van Lenten"
Subject: Re: Who Supplies Castings and drawings for a 3-3/4" scale or larger 0-4-0
In the passed I have bought from Little Engines, Paid big money, and waited 3 years for boiler and parts. Since then I got my own "S" stamp and build boilers. I bought from Gene Allen ( Allen Models) and paid a fair price, and received every thing at once. Now I am buying from Roll Models to build 3 3/4" scale engines. For the size of the castings, and other materials I think they are priced accordingly. I have built two of thier engines, and three scratch built from thier parts. I think I paid more for the LE castings and parts.
Bill
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:04:01 +1000
From: grpfuzz@optusnet.com.au
Subject: SR&RL 24 Plans
Hi all
Just wondering if anyone knows of a supplier or source of plans (fullsize or model) for 2 foot gauge Sandy River No. 24? Any advice on tracking them down would be of a help!!
Greg
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:24:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoffrey Kail
Subject: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
I think I heard there were some in NMRA library.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:32:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bruce Mowbray
Subject: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
Greg,
Have you tried contacting the WW&F Railway Museum? http://wwfry.org/ They are a very friendly bunch and if anybody might have drawings, it would be them.
Bruce Mowbray
Springville, PA
http://www.geocities.com/trainhead391/
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:08:03 -0700
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
I think that Dave Skagen built a model of it he may have plans also I also heard that he is building another one that is even larger than the number 24 think that I was told it was the number 23. These are both in 3 3/4".
Boyd
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:01:50 +1000
From: grpfuzz@optusnet.com.au
Subject: Re: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
Thanks Guys
Ill try the WW&F for the plans. How do i get a hold of Dave Skagen, Boyd?
thanks
Greg
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:24:25 +0000
From: Roy Stevens
Subject: RE: SR&RL 24 Plans
There are some folio drawings printed in "The Maine Scenic Route" and they came from somewhere, I'm sure better ones are available. #23 was 2' longer than #24 with 1" larger cylinders, larger boiler with higher pressure to match.
Roy
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:56:03 -0500
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: SR&RL 24 Plans
Greg.
Find the series on building a Maxi Lucky Seven from Live Steam magazine. It is the same size as #24 in lots of area's and has a lot of common parts. Our web site has plans for the trailing truck as that wasn't on #7. Gary Kohler has a lot of drawings you can get copies of and he put out a plan book of #23 at one time. It has a bigger boiler and a different wheel spacing. I understand there was one guy who had a full set of plans for sale many years ago but don't have contact info. Happy hunting.
Later:
Tom Casper
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:28:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Killen
Subject: Re: RE: SR&RL 24 Plans
check out plan-ahead-designs and look at the Bridgton and harrison #7
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:53:51 -0000
From: "William Van Lenten"
Subject: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
Dave Skagen built 2 SR&RL #24's. He does have the prints, and will sell a set to anyone wanting them.
Here is his contact info:
Skagen Cuystom Locomotives, E 1160 Agate Road, Shelton, Wa. 98584, 360-426-6280....
Hope this helps,
Tell Dave that Bill in Florida refered you.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:02:33 +1200
From: Grant & Donna Alexander
Subject: Re:SR&RL 24 Plans
Greg,
I have a set of GA's here somewhere, we completed our #24 about two and a half years ago, it's quite a big loco. The GA's we used came from a Model Engineer magazine, Feb '87 I believe. We raised the cab height about 2 inches to fit my rather over scale legs, and also raised the sides of the tender a little to keep the proportions about right. We also shortened the entire thing proportionally to fit my trailer!! Yup, a "custom" built loco.
Picture attached for the direct email, for those others check out the links to the pictures on the Manakau Live Steamers web site, look under the pictures from the recent event held their over Queens Birthday Weekend, there's two shots of our #24 plus a close-up of the loco's trailing truck.
Grant Alexander
Squirrel Valley Railway
Cambridge, NZ.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19:20 -0400
From: SZuiderveen@aol.com
Subject: Re:SR
This is #23, and not #24, but this has practically enough tracings of original Baldwin drawings to build a new locomotive. It is also a very rare book.
Two-Foot Cyclopedia – SR&RL #23 –William Jensen, Jr., Pub 1977, 68 pages, 17 x 11
Steve
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:36:39 -0000
From: "William Van Lenten"
Subject: Starting in Steam???
For those that would like to start in steam, I have a ready to run LE CRAB. 7 1/2" gauge, fired on propane. Engine includes special hose,and regulator. A 20# propane tank is also included to anyone picking up the engine.
I will not ship the tank for safety reasons. (DOT- regulations) Asking $2900.00 plus shipping.
Bill
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:38:05 -0700
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Re: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
He also is building the number 23 which is larger than the 24. Boyd
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:57:33 -0400
From: Arno Martens
Subject: Re: Starting in Steam???
Bill,
That sounds like a pretty fair price.
Take it to the Triennial. If someone sees it running I sure you won't take her home.
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Cheers,
Arno
in 7¼" country.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:12:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: leonard laufer
Subject: Re: RE: SR&RL 24 Plans
Hi to all,
If anyone is interested, I have the plans, construction article for the smaller size Lucky Seven, 3.5 gauge, inside frame as well as a complete set of casting and a certified copper boiler.
Len
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:09:58 +1200
From: Grant & Donna Alexander
Subject: Re: Re:SR&RL 24 Plans
Oops sorry, Live Steam Magazine, not Model Engineer...
Grant.
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:05:56 -0000
From: "William Van Lenten"
Subject: Re: Starting in Steam???
Arno, That would be a good idea, except this year I have a few expense problems that's keeping me home.
Economy you know...
Bill
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:54:07 -0400
From: OXPRESS51@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Starting in Steam???
May I ask what and where is the "Triennial"?
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:42:34 -0700
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Subject: Re:Was Re: Starting in Steam??? Now Triennial
Train Mountain in Oregon (just outside of Chiloquin) holds a huge meet every three years and train nuts from all over the globe attend. Great fun and good commoradory.
If you get time and want to spend a great week or so check out and see the results of one man's vision.
check out http://tinyurl.com/n852cw and enjoy.
kind regards
Dennis Dalla-Vicenza
Way out here in Cherry Creek,
the much posher area north and slightly above good old Port Alberni, BC, Canada. Eh!
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:42:09 -0400
From: Arno Martens
Subject: Re: Re: Starting in Steam???
That goes around a lot, unfortunately.
Maybe if you post the name of your town and also send a message in the [Livesteamers] list yo may find someone interested to drop by your place on their travels.
If it were 7¼" I would be interested for future resale as I consider it a bargain if it has no major problems.
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Cheers,
Arno
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:11:46 -0400
From: Arno Martens
Subject: Re: Re: Starting in Steam???
As Dennis already mentioned, it is the mother of all Live Steam get togethers.
I don't know if the attachments will be stripped by the list so I am CC'ing the screen shot and the Google Earth KMZ file.
I think in 2006 (thus triennial) there were about 350 locos there.
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Cheers,
Arno
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:46:01 -0000
From: "William Van Lenten"
Subject: Re: Starting in Steam???
Arno, In live in Brooksville Florida, and the engine disassembles easily to cut the axles. Then with spacers can be used for both gauges.
Bill
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:02:22 +1000
From: grpfuzz@optusnet.com.au
Subject: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
Tom
thanks for the tip! I had a good look at the plans of the trailing truck on your site!! It says on the site they designed it for a loco they were building for you? Are they building #24? Dont suppose they have other plans on CAD?
Regards
Greg
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:15:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Killen
Subject: Re: SR&RL 24 Plans
CHECK OUT PLAN-AHEAD-DESIGNS.US FOR A PLAN SET ON THE BRIDGTON AND HARRISON #7 WHICH IS THE LUCKY SERIES LOCOMOTIVE
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:33:47 -0700
From: "Daniel F Morris"
Subject: YouTube HD Videos
To All:
I have posted brand new footage I shot the week of May 25-29 in Chicago while visiting my folks. I shot of course my baby " The Chicago South Shore & South Bend" electric and the Rock Island portion of Metra, which runs behind my folks house in Midlothian, Ill. I also got a couple shots of Iowa Interstate that runs on the same Metra line.(Freight)
The files are 1080i HD, so check on the HD button and it'll play HD. I was in hog heaven with all the trains back there! YES!
Take Care & Enjoy!
Dan Morris
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:46:02 -0500
From: "Tom Casper"
Subject: RE: SR&RL 24 Plans
Greg,
No computer for my builder. Jim Small is doing it the hard way, from plans and drawings. I contacted Gary Kohler and got plans for the trailing truck from him that were copies of Portland drawings. Mel put them to CAD and did those plans for Jim to work off of. Jim is using the #23 plans and the Lucky 7 plans and making changes that are unique to #24. So far it is working good.
Later:
Tom Casper
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:36:21 -0700
From: "Daniel F Morris"
Subject: Sound Transit Light Rail Testing
More Sound Transit Light Rail Testing Posted On YouTube CSS903
Take Care & Enjoy!
Dan
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:28:54 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Pat Turner
Subject: 2.5" Scale RMI Flat/Gon For Sale
Hi all, I put a very nice RMI 2.5" Scale Steel Flat car with wood deck and removable Sides/Ends on www.Discoverlivesteam.com the other day. It is lettered D&RGW with Arch Bar Trucks. Very nice car, but it needs to go. Priced at $2,495.00 it is a Thousand Dollars less than a new one would cost you!
Pat
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:52:45 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: BCL&RR - A new workcaboose is born
Hello railroaders,
yesterday, I got the chance to prove that 9 + 3 will be 9 (in some cases) !!!
Some of my first logging railroad cars in 2"-scale have been a short logging caboose (#9) and a tool car (#3), each build on top of a heavy duty single truck. Meanwhile, I doesn'z like the caboose anymore and the toolcar was build "very strong" and looked more than a toy as a model.
First I removed the trucks on this cars and mounted them to the coach, as the larger trucks are looking much better on this car. Next I build a new 18' car frame and placed the hood of old caboose #9 and most of the tool car stuff on top to create a new workcaboose. This time, I removed all electric equipment from the toolcar as my logging railroad will be placed in the era 1900 to 1910.
Here are two preview pictures of the work in progress. This evening I'll final mount the trucks as I missed the right hardware for this job.
I hope you enjoy my work.
v
Gerd
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:41:23 -0700
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Re: BCL&RR - A new workcaboose is born
That looks like my kind of tool car. What gauge is it? Oh yes and by the way we have some stranger running around at Train Mountain that speaks with somewhat of an accent. Think he is one from the other side of the pond. Has somewhat of a beard too. Looks also like he is having fun too.
Boyd Butler
on my way back to another day of fun at TM.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:59:35 -0000
From: "Gerd Ziller"
Subject: Re: BCL&RR - A new workcaboose is born
Hi Boyd,
It's 2"-scale on 5" gauge.
Well that sounds like a hugh guy called Gerald or GeGa. He's from Austria and I know him from several live steam conventions here in Germany ;-) He's at TM for the first time, together with our admin Hubert.
Feel free to say them a warm Hello from Germany. I'm really enviously.
Have a good time over there at TM and please post some pics to enjoy for those you can't be there.
BTW, the work caboose has been finished and photographed outdoors.
http://www.gerds-modellbahn.de/BCRR/Fahrzeuge/Workcaboose/Workcaboose_e.htm
I also started a new crew car, based on an old pair of disconnects.
http://www.gerds-modellbahn.de/BCRR/Fahrzeuge/Crewcar/Crew_e.htm
Both cars will be used on a MOW-train this weekend.
Gerd
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:14:49 -0700
From: "Boyd Butler"
Subject: Train mountain
Well Hubert is alive and well at Train Mountain was seen wandering around the vendors barn but empty handed.
We will send him home soon with a smile on his face from another trip over to see us again.
Boyd not far from Train Mountain
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:03:10 -0000
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: Greetings from Train Mountain
Hello,
thuesday morning I got the shop-speeder for a maintanance-run to inspect the track, and I was able to do shoot some photos.
The following two are from the Douglas - Division, which has changed a lot from the scenery over the past years:
And than something worse:
As I walked down to the RV for lunch, I saw the following:
The train with the K-36, 8 cars, caboose, and additional riding-cars from Train Mountain was on its way heading up to the serpentine, as the tender split the switch. Although, the complete train has airbrake, it took nearly the length of the first two car until final stop. Both cars and the tender derailed, destroying part of the track.
Because their are safteparts over the couplers, the train didn't separate:
With help of other backyard-railroaders and the passengers both derailed cars where seperated and rerailed.
With use of a heavy jack and many people the tender finally was rerailed:
And now two more photos:
The K-36 of Bruno, who bought it in really bad shape and reworked it to a fine looking and performing engine:
And than a nice fourney running:
Greetings from TrainMountain
HubertTheGoose
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:27:38 -0000
From: "metroliner941"
Subject: Re: Train mountain
Hubert is standing in front of me right now in the vendor hall AND he has a box in his hands now. All is well with the world...
Matt Mason
Editor
The Home Railway Journal
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:03:18 +0000
From: Roy Stevens
Subject: RE: Greetings from Train Mountain
Where are you at and I'll come by and say HI.
Roy
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:03:09 -0000
From: "John Oxlade"
Subject: Loco insurance in New Zealand
Hi is there anyone out there with a loco in New Zealand with insurance?
I am looking for insurance:
When my loco is at my home/railway
When it is stored (securely) in a friends machine shopV
When it is in transit on my trailer (whether I am driving or another named person)V
Possibly when it is running elsewhere (which might be covered by their liability insurance)
Any information would be appreciated.
John
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:51:16 -0000
From: "Jerry L. Albers"
Subject: Re: Greetings from Train Mountain
Hi guys. You don't hear much from me on this post, but i just wanted to say "thenks Hubert" for the great pictures. I hope to make it there some day.
Jerry
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Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:57:54 +0200
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"
Subject: RE: Greetings from Train Mountain
Hello Roy,
I'm in South Meadows Camparea with the El Monte RV. Saturday morning I will visit the parade in front of the vendor-shed and will leave at noon.
Greetings
Hubert
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:19:05 -0000
From: "William Van Lenten"
Subject: Re: Greetings from Train Mountain
Hubert, Pictures Please!!!!!!
Bill
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