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7-Plus-NGM Digest January 2004

Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 07:36:04 -0600
From: "Thomas"

Subject: Re: A question for Texas or Oklahoma Members

Hi guys, If you work on the Santa Fe, it is bnSF and if you are just a rail fan it is BNSF.

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:33:48 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

Subject: Rail Driver CDs and shipping

Hi all,
Good news from my friend Tim at Raildriver. I forwarded all the email responses that I got from the people on list about UPS and their outlandish border crossing charges to Raildriver through Tim. He took everything to his boss who in turn has guaranteed that if a CD is ordered from them and the purchaser requests USPS service then they will comply.

Hopefully this will alleviate the problems that some of us have experienced with receiving their (Raildriver) product. I will again recommend that you seriously consider buying this product for both its historical value and for the little included on each CD program that allows you to put our model drawings in the scale that you model in. Other than my friend Tim I have no connection with this company other than satisfied user.
kind regards
Dennis, Secretary Vancouver Island Model Engineers
Envision whirled peas.

Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:44:31 -0000
From: "chevwilliam"

Subject: Re: Rail Driver CDs and shipping

Re: Rail Driver CDs.
I purchased all three of the then available CDs at one time and have found their content to be useful in my projects. I am attempting to model Uintah Railway equipment in 7.5" gauge so have been researching Narrow gauge construction standards and practices to regenerate data that historians did not feel was useful to modelers, little things like center plate height from rail head, side bearing height form rail head, spring dimensions and mountings, brake rigging references, etc.
After all, when you are modeling in HOn3, On3 or similar, most people do not worry about such dimensions as the just confor to published modeling standards. To date it seems that each Narrow gauge railway had its own way of doing things and there were few published MCB Standards that related to narrow gauge equipment specifically (perhaps because of lack of interchange requirements and the unique needs of each particualr narrow gauge operation.
I Strongly recommend the RailDriver CDs as very useful research and modeling tools to recreat the engineering thinking of the times. The Scale Print program is a very useful added bonus.
Best REgards,
William J. Stewart.

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:19:11 -0000
From: "k36no4862002"

Subject: Challenger Drawings

Dear All

Does anybody have a good GA on AutoCad of the UP Challenger that could be Emailed?

I have tried using the one on SteamCad however when you enlarge it to one sixth scale the drawing starts to 'fall apart'.

I'm about to start building a 7.25 model on a similar scale to the Big Boy at Dobwalls in UK and a full size GA will go a long way to working out the simple dimensions of the large items.

Thanks in advance

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:56:05 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

Subject: Visiting Vancouver Island

Hi all,
In case you are planning a visit to the Northern Island I thought that the following Steam operation may be of interest. I may be wrong but the sawmill part of the unit is the last operating steam powered sawmill in North America ??
The following link will give further details as to times of operations and costs for the rides and tours. It is a fun way to spend a day in Port Alberni BC.
http://www.alberniheritage.com/calendar.php?2 Sorry to those who get this multi posted message more than once.
kind regards
Dennis, Secretary Vancouver Island Model Engineers
Envision whirled peas.

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:12:01 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

Subject: Florida Bound in "05

Hi all you Florida guys & gals
My wife has just learned that her government agency is offering her an early retirement package with a nice bonus and etc. It is too late for this year but we have always been talking about doing the FLS meets some year. It looks very good for 2005 and what we need to know is when and where and what times ???
We need to do a fun event with lots of time for playing and shopping (her not me) and I haven't been to Florida in a heck of a long time. The last meet I attended there from my home club in Ontario was way too long ago to even remember the name of the club where the meet was held. I've heard that the club no longer exists. (Lakeland ring a bell?)
I have to actually get to meet the great "Zookinie" of "Hand to Mouth RR" fame and a few of the other live steamers I have had an on list rapport with. We want to do all the good touristy stuff, WDW, the flower place and maybe even some fishing. Heck if one of the Florida teams make it we could even take in a playoff game (football or hockey don't care which) and really feel at home.
Lawrence, will any of the boys from the "Sault" be going to the meet. It sure would be neet to see yourself, Ed and a few others. One last thought, Chuck hold our reservations for the observation car on the "Daylight limited."
kind regards and keep :o)ing
Denise and Dennis

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:00:43 -0000
From: "mosquitojunction"

Subject: RE: Florida Bound in "05

Hi Dennis, It's good to hear you are coming to Florida.
First Zookie, Bob Zuckerman, changed the name of his rail road to Lockheart and Lakewood R/R, The Largo Central Club was hosting the winter meets, untill this year. We gave it back to the Lakeland club, still called the Ridge Club, but now located in Dundee Florida.
We at the Mosquito Junction & Western R/R are members of the FLS, and i am also a member of the Largo Central, and the Los Angeles Live Steamers.
Dennis, I will let you know, (on our group) When the dates are schedualed for the 2005 winter meet.

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:36:57 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

Subject: Re: RE: Florida Bound in "05

When you see the great Zookie again, tell him Dennis said hi and will see him in a little over a year. Has he still got his steamer??
kind regards and keep :o)ing

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:03:19 -0000
From: "mosquitojunction"

Subject: Re: Florida Bound in "05

No, he sold that Allen Ten wheeler about 2 years ago. He now has an E&S Lines F-7.
He's happy now.
To much trouble with the steamer, and it needed new flues.

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:49:51 -0000
From: "bocamikey"

Subject: Re: Florida Bound in "05

Everything you ever wanted to know about Live Steam in Floriduh.


Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:49:58 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

Subject: Re: [LargeScaleTrains] New Member


May I suggest you join 7-plus-NGM@yahoogroups.com as they are more into the riding class railroads. LargeScaleTrains seams to be mostly G scale guys. Nothing wrong with this as I model in HO - G (for indoor activity) and 3 3/4" scale running on 7 1/2" gauge for really big locomotives for live steam running.

kind regards and keep :o)ing

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:41:50 -0000
From: "fredvv44"

Subject: Re: Florida Bound in "05

hi Dennis,
just outside of Fl. in so. east Alabama is a new track called Wales West.
see www.waleswest.com

this is a 2ft. ga. and 7.5" ga. we plan to host meets before and after the Fl. winter schedule. this thing could end up dragging out for the whole winter.

we have started laying track in both gauges and should have the first loop done by 2005. the new Hunslet style steamer for the 2ft. track should ship from the UK sometime this spring.
fred veenschoten
CHIEF volunteer co-ordinator (i like the CHIEF part)

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:43:16 -0800
From: Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

Subject: Re: Re: Florida Bound in "05


Thanks for the suggestion but the trip will exceed 1000 miles if we round trip from where the wife wants to be in Orlando area. Once we have an idea of when everything takes place and we can set up a north south or south north itinerary then we may be able to do it. We'll both be on our own time then and it sure is warmer there than here.
Around here when you become "Chief" anything it means you're the only one willing to do the work.
kind regards and keep :o)ing

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:35:44 -0000
From: "mosquitojunction"

Subject: Re: Florida Bound in "05

Yea, the only CHIEF arround here caches all the h_ll and abuse. Fred, I was at your site awhile ago, and this last end of summer, James,from our club was there. I have some of your fliers. I also have some 2' gauge engines and trains for sale.