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Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:05:15 +1200
From: "Robert S Logan"

Subject: Re: Digest Number 387

Hello Barry,
go to sales@ajreeves.com a direct "door" to A J Reeves. Good Luck, Good Steaming, See how it is "Cut, Cut "

Bob L New Zealand

Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 08:22:25 +1200
From: "Gary & Marilyn Ralfe"

Subject: 15" gauge carriage designs wanted

Once the current 7 1/4" project is done, I would like to upsize to 15" and start with a narrow gauge carriage or two. Has anyone got plans (simple line drawing will do) for a character bow sided wooden one? or know of a lead?

Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:55:54 -0700
From: "James Hoback"

Subject: Tinkerbell


Does anyone know of a Roger Marsh Tinkerbell class loco for sale (in the USA).

Jim Hoback
Sonora, CA, U.S.A.

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:05:01 -0600
From: "Mike Decker"

Subject: Re: "Surplus Center"


I agree about "Surplus Center". All of the bearings, sprockets and chain for my gas loco came from there. Also, I got a furnace blower that I used to build a dust filter for my wood shop.


Mike Decker

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:10:55 -0600
From: "Mike Decker"

Subject: Real Trains Wheels

Hi Folks:

Recently, I received the custom bored wheels that I'd ordered from Bill.
They are really nice.

I'm using his 2-1/2" scale, 6-7/8" dia. wheels in the hubbed style, for the drive wheels on my 4-wheeled gas loco. The wheels have a nice, wide tread, that willl allow for lots of gauge widening if I need it on the 20' R. curves leaving my terminal.

Thanks, again for the nice work, Bill.


Mike Decker

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:47:38 -0600
From: "David Rhoton"

Subject: Re: Real Trains Wheels

Who is bill and how much are the wheels?
Dave r

Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:22:16 -0600
From: "Mike Decker"

Subject: Re: Real Trains Wheels

Hi Dave:

Bill is Bill Donovan at Real Trains. The order was an old one, and I can't say for sure what the current price would be, I understand it varies with material cost. I bought the hubbed version with a non-standard bore and keyways to fit my locomotive design. His standard wheels would be on his web site: www.realtrains.com
Mike Decker

Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rowland

Subject: Re: Re: Searching for materials.

I just received my notice in the mail yesterday, 9-4-01. Some of the flyers may still be in transit.


Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:43:11 -0000
From: "Curtis S. Ferrington"

Subject: Re: Searching for materials.


That may be the problem. I did speak with Karl on Sunday and he was rather taken aback that more people, especially Rudy, didn't know about the Narrow Gauge meet.

Come October 12th 14th I guess we'll know just who knows and who doesn't.

Curtis F.

Bitter Creek Western RR Website: www.thegrid.net/silverado/BCW/

Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:03:41 -0000
From: "Frolin Marek"

Subject: Re: Real Trains Wheels

I was curious to so went top look at Real Trains site and got the basic answer on price, so thought would share here...

They have machined wheels with and withuot hub listed...

With hub says
--> 2 1/2 Inch Scale 33" Wheel, 6.88" diameter $54.00

Without huib was listed for $45.


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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:04:31 EDT
From: DBauer2250@aol.com
Subject: Fitchburg Northern Discussion Group

Date: Thu Sep 6, 2001 10:17 pm
From: "Jon Payne"
To: "Don Bauer"
Subject: Fitchburg Northern

I'm one of those nuts that's building the Finchburg Northern locomotive.
I wanted to drop you a quick note the Fitchburg Northern I am building.
The boiler will be finished in the next week.
We ordered a tender kit from Locoparts and will have it in October.
We hope to have it finished for the gold spike run at Nick Edwards new railroad in Texas in the spring of 2003! I talked with Russ Steeves about our Fitchburg Northern as his locomotive stimulated us when we saw his at Nick Edwards old track in New Hampshire.
My first locomotive was a 2 1/2" Mic-Cal Class A shay and was finished in 1996.
Well I need to get back to work for the company.
Please add me to the list.
I look forward to hearing from you.

Good steaming!

Jon Payne
Applications Engineer
Omni Technologies Inc.
80 Brown St.
Greendale IN 47025-1502
Phone: 513-564-8795
Fax: 513-564-8796

Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:05:10 EDT
From: DBauer2250@aol.com

Subject: Fitchburg Northern Discussion Group

Date: Fri Sep 7, 2001 5:09 pm From: "Jon Payne"
To: "Don Bauer"
Subject: Re: Fitchburg Northern

Hi Don,

I neglected a to note one other large part of the locomotive is complete, the chassis is running on air!
The boiler is being built by Ed Perry in CA. per Gene Allan's recommendation.
One change I made on the boiler is I went with the larger mogul fire door to mare coal firing easier.
I just installed the Locoparts brake valve for the steam brakes on my Shay and was impressed with the quality and look forward to seeing the tender.
I will keep you informer on the other Locoparts as I get them.
Thanks for your help and look forward to any comments you might have.


Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 10:13:28 EDT
From: DBauer2250@aol.com

Subject: Fwd: Fitchburg Northern

Date: 9/7/01 10:01:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: GengH
To: DBauer2250
Subj: Fitchburg Northern

Dear Don:
I'm a little confused about how to get on the Fitchburg Northern discussion group list. I'd like to get on it.
I have a Fitchburg No. about half completed. The chassis is complete and runs on air. I designed and built a Briggs boiler which is done except for state inspection.
I redesigned the cab to all metal, heavy aluminum riveted one, a little over half done.
I also designed an axle pump that can be retrofitted without disassembling wheels and axles.
I believe this is an excellent first locomotive. It's relatively simple & the castings are reasonable in cost.
George Hoke
Bellevue, WA

Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 17:24:24 -0400
From: locopart

Subject: Re: Fitchburg Northern Discussion Group

Hi Don

Just a note for your guys on the Fithburg-Northern list. I have a new batch of riveted tender kits for this engine being prepared right now. They should be ready for shipping in about 4 weeks. Have photo of prototype that i take to runs with me I can provide if any of your group wishes to contact me offline. Thanks

Don Orr,
Suffolk, Va
FAX 757-255-7350
1-1/2", 2-1/2" and 3-3/4" scale steam locomotive accessories, gas burners, tender kits, and Allen parts

Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 02:09:30 -0000
From: dmmcomo@socal.rr.com

Subject: Baldwin Colors...

Fellow members, your bottomless pit of knowledge needs to be plumbed:

"If you were to order a simple articulated from Baldwin in 1926 and did not specify a color, and Baldwin painted it green (which indeed was one of their standard engine colors in that time period, what shade of green whoud they have most likely used and what on the engine would most likely have been painted green, and what painted black and what silver?"

Also, what paint available today would have the best chance of matching that color correctly?

A certain Gentleman in the wilds of UTAH is building a monster 2-1/2" scale articulated loco has posed this question; I think it would be the same color green in the same pattern that some D&RGW "K" series were painted, but I am far from sure.

Any replies will be gratefully received...

Rudy van Wingen
Como Roundhouse Products

Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:06:54 EDT
From: yrfavsob@aol.com

Subject: Re: Baldwin Colors...


Best way to be sure is to check the the BLW order record for URY #50 and it will state the color of the engine, lettering and any striping. The default colors Baldwin used during the late 19th and early 20th centuries were "Olive" and the lettering would be silver. Olive was very dark - much like the Brunswick Green used on Pennsy steamers.

Dennis O'Berry

Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:48:18 -0400
From: "Bruce Mowbray"

Subject: Is Charlie Dockstader's Program Accurate??

Fellow listees,
Sorry for the multiple postings on more than one list.

As some of you know, I am designing and building a new project loco. I am at the point of building the valve gear and since this loco is being designed from the ground up, I have the chance to build the valve gear from the ground up too. The gear is of the Stephenson slide valve type using the typical locomotive version. I have read a half dozen books on valve gear design and have now drawn in both cad and on the old drafting table, my fair share of Zeuner diagrams, and let me tell you..designing the entire valve gear for a locomotive from scratch certainly isn't a walk in the park. Since the loco's parts will be made on CNC machines, I don't think I would be cheating to use a program for the design and development of the valve gear. I have often thought of downloading Charlie's valve gear program and finally I have the absolute need.


I just loaded the dimensions of my new project loco into Charlie's program, manipulated the numbers around and came up with a real good set of dimensions to use for my valve gear. The question is, Are the numbers that are produced by Charlies program accurate? Has anybody actually developed a Stephenson valve train from scratch using the program? How did the locomotive run? Anything I should look out for? All answers good or bad appreciated.

Loco building is FUN!!!

Bruce Mowbray
TMB Manufacturing and Locomotive Works
1 1/2" Scale & 2 1/2" Scale (Narrow Gauge) Live Steamer

Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:46:26 -0000
From: nigel.musson@virgin.net

Subject: Locomotive Handling, Trailer for carrying and Lifting Trolley's

With apologies if you see this in a number of groups!

Please can anyone give me advice/guidance on the above subject?

Whilst I propose to buy a ready made trailer (aluminium?), if possible I would like to construct my own lifting trolley. If anyone knows where I might obtain plans for such a trolley I would be very grateful. The locomotive in question is a 7.25" Romulus design.

Any advice regarding anchoring, locomotive protection (from weather as well as restraining straps) and what you should take with you on a steaming trip would be very much appreciatted.

The sort of questions I have in mind are along the lines of (sorry no pun!):
1) What sort of height differential should one cater for? Is there for example, an accepted standard at club circuits (in the UK) from floor to rail height for "locomotive recieving bays"?
2) Should the lifting trolley be capable of being transported with the loco in the trailer?
and so on.

Thanks and regards

Nigel Musson

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 06:32:33 -0000
From: boomer37321@yahoo.com

Subject: 1/8 scale Caboose Marker Lamps

Looking to purchase a pair of 1/8" scale Caboose marker lamps for my "SOO" Caboose. Any suggestions?

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:11:56 +0100
From: "Hubert Wetekamp"

Subject: RE: Locomotive Handling, Trailer for carrying and Lifting Trolley's


for storing and transportation my equipment, I bought a single-axle box-style cargo-trailer, which I can connect to my Vanagon and travel to different layouts.

Until today, I've installed two tracks in the trailer, where the equipment rolls easy on and is than tied down to the floor.
I plan to add a second level for smaller cars, which I can handle by myself to store them. The trailer measures 10' x 5' x 5' .

During the first year, I always had the problem, that I needed a couple of guys to unload my locomotive and the 8-wheel-cars.

And than, in january at the indoor-live-steam-festival, I saw the solution for my problem.

I bought a two wheel dolly and installed a section of track on it. Also, I installed an an steal-angle to the end of the dolly, so that I can connect the engine as well the cars to the dolly.
I lay the dolly to the trailer, secure it and than I can roll my models out of the trailer.
After that, I can use the dolly in the well known way and transport my equipment to the place for unloading. I can lay the track to the raised unloading section or, if not available, I can lay it down on the normal track.
With a primitive ramp, I can roll the equipment down onto the stationary track.

I plan to store this dolly in future on the second level of my trailer between the cars, so that I have it at hand every time.

Attached is a photo of my caboose, standing on the dolly, which is connected to my trailer.

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 11:43:30 -0000
From: boomer37321@yahoo.com

Subject: Trailering R.R. Equipment.

We purchase a single axle, 4'X 12' wooden floor trailer. Because we may have to use this trailer for other purposes than hauling R.R. stuff, we bought two 3/4 x 4/8/ plywood; painted them with exterior grade paint; then screwed them to the floor of the trailer. We put the track on these. We then installed l/2" black pipe; 6' lengths. We mounted two on the outside and two through the middle--using the screw eyelets which the pipe goes through the eyes, with two bolts and washers attached to each side of the plywood. Now, just roll your equipment onto the track and rachet them down to the pipe using the 400# racket you can buy at your local WalMart.
NOTE: we also put l/2" end caps to each end of pipe. This helps them remain in position.

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:30:57 -0000
From: dmmcomo@socal.rr.com

Subject: Re: 1/8 scale Caboose Marker Lamps

The original RailRoad Supply Company in Burbank, CA used to sell a beauty that my partner Lorin Brown mastered for them; I don't know if their successor still has it or not. There were a lot of them around at one time; you might want to try eBay...

We are currently making a master to produce an Adlake lamp that was commonly used on the narrow gauges, but ours will be 2-1/2" scale in keeping with our line of 2-1/2" scale parts. Our lantern will have Fresnel lenses and LED lighting.

If you would be interested in these, send us an eMail and we will put you on our waiting list for this item. Cost is expected to run between $100 and $200/lantern and we expect to have them ready to ship in the first quarter of 2002.

Rudy van Wingen
Como Roundhouse Products.

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:31:51 -0700
From: Allen Lee Dobney

Subject: Finally Finished Caboose

I finally finished my first 2.5" scale car, after about 4 years of working on it off and on. It is a model of the C&S caboose 1009 now at the Colorado RR museum in Golden. If you are interested in seeing a few pictures, please go to the URL below.



The caboose has a total of about 1,900 parts, many of which were fabricated. It is designed with a removable roof, so the car can be used for hauling tools & supplies.

This is a shot of the other side of the caboose from the rear. All of the verticle siding was cut from redwood lumber and added as individual pieces to the body.

This is a construction shot of the brake cylinder. It was assembled from 2 sizes of PVC pipe, various sizes of washers, wood dowel, styrene & brass wire. There are over 100 individual parts in the cylinder alone.

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:55:25 -0700
From: "James Hoback"

Subject: Re: Finally Finished Caboose


Congratulations on a fine piece of work! Thanks for sharing the photos.


Jim Hoback
Sonora, CA, U.S.A.

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:21:07 -0700
From: "James Hoback"

Subject: Eye of the beholder

A recent change of residence caused a move of shop. The good news was the acquisition of a brand new 5 hp vertical tank compressor. Lack of space caused the compressor to be placed in a covered carport outside the garage (now a shop) and in view from the front door of the house. Another member of the family has requested that I build some type of screen to hide the bright shiny new compressor which is coincidentally painted a perfect shade of green that matches the trim on the new house. Hide it? Go figure.

Jim Hoback
Sonora, CA, U.S.A.

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:46:59 -0000
From: boomer37321@yahoo.com

Subject: Very nice job on 2- 1/2" Caboose!!

Allen: Your project was time well spent. Very nice job on your Caboose! Am very interested on how you constructed the "Smoke Jack" for your stove?

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:45:30 EDT
From: PrototypeB@aol.com

Subject: Re: Finally Finished Caboose-nice

Hello Allen,
Thanks for the posted pix.
Very nice caboose.
I recently built a 2 1/2" caboose based on a West Side prototype but with two axles.
Same idea, siding over scale 2 x 4's. I plan to do the complete interior this winter.
I like to put people in a model to help show size and scale. I found a "doll", an adult male with a reasonably proportioned head but with very small feet. It is a scale six feet tall but with no clothes ... so I will have to find someone to make an appropriate Railroad outfit. (with larger shoes, also) Not one of my skills.
Again, a very nice model, Have you more 2 1/2"rolling stock?


Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:51:53 EDT
From: Dgligg@aol.com

Subject: Re: Finally Finished Caboose-nice


We have been looking for a 6' male doll ( 9" actual) . Do you know what manufacture makes this doll? We have the G.I.Joe's but they have those weird positioned hands.

Best Regards,

Doug Liggett

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:58:26 -0700
From: Allen Lee Dobney

Subject: Re: Very nice job on 2- 1/2" Caboose!!

Thanks, The Smoke Jack was constructed from 2 sizes of PVC pipe for the straight cylinder sections. The flange near the base of the stack was the center section of a small plastic funnel that you typically can find in a grocery store. The top was fabricated out of sheet aluminum.


Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:07:15 -0700
From: Allen Lee Dobney

Subject: Re: Finally Finished Caboose-nice

Hi Barry:

This is my only car so far. My next car project will be an SP narrow Gauge flat car. I am planning on constructing seats that will employ the stake pockets so they can be removable and a conversion assembly so I can easily convert it into an SP NG low side gondola.


Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Dobrowolski

Subject: For Sale: Two 7 1/4" gauge riding goldolas

I have posted two ads at www.livesteaming.com for two gondolas I have for sale. Please visit the website if you are interested. They are located in Northern NJ.

Bob Dobrowolski

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:39:12 -0700
From: "James Hoback"

Subject: Re: Finally Finished Caboose-nice


Just as a point of information, if you have built a West Side caboose and put siding over a framework you are done. These cabooses were quite Spartan and had no interior finish. Standing inside you could see daylight through the knot holes in the exterior siding.


Jim Hoback
Sonora, CA, U.S.A.

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:19:05 -0000
From: cdhunter@centurytel.net

Subject: Recommendations for books on 7.5" track and roadbed procedures

I am preparing to build a small point to point layout on my property and I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a book that covers roadbed and track laying.

C.D. Hunter
North Bend, WA

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:00:19 -0000
From: cdhunter@centurytel.net

Subject: Book Recommendations?

Anybody out there have any recommendations for a book that covers roadbed and track construction for 7.5" gauge track?

C. D. Hunter

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:38:51 EDT
From: davidh8602@aol.com

Subject: Re: Recommendations for books on 7.5" track and roadbed procedures

Try locating an old copy of the Railroad Supply Track Handbook. Very helpful. Has switch layout and measurement also.

David Hannah, III

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:23:31 -0000
From: billsand@nfx.net

Subject: Re: Is Charlie Dockstader's Program Accurate??

Can't you 'proof' the figures with what you have done? As you can see, each phase interrelates so that an input mistake on any one item will create a disaster. Also any changes during machining will cause multiple problems. You may know of CAD conversion programs to specific CNC machines....do it yourself. You may also know that CNC machines can be keyboard programmed if you know what you are doing, your tooling and what you are after. Do Tell? Are you after someone to do your programming for you?

Bill C.

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 04:04:56 EDT
From: GMEYER6103@AOL.Com

Subject: Re: Book Recommendations?

I believe that you can obtain a copy of "ENGINEERING HANDBOOK for Recreational Railroaders" from RAILROAD WAREHOUSE, 1012 IRMA LANE, Gardnerville, NE. 89410. The price is $17.50. E-mail them at bobjr@primenet.com

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:06:04 -0400
From: "Bruce Mowbray"

Subject: Re: Bill C./ Re: Is Charlie Dockstader's Program Accurate??

Before I used Charlie's program, I made 10x version, manual drawings of my intended valve gear. I knew the basic dimensions of important items but to make slight changes to improve the motion, due to the multitue of lines and numerous erasures, made things confusing on a sheet of paper and I was forced to make a new drawing each time. This was very time consuming. So I downloaded Charlie's program and loaded what I thought were the numbers from my drawing that I thought were the most accurate. I must have done somthing right because the results that I achieved on paper were close to the numbers that resulted from Charlie's program. The best part of the program was that I could make slight changes and could see the results immediatly without having to erase construction lines or make a totally new drawing. I was just hoping that if I used these numbers from the program output, I could make the valve gear parts and have the locomotive run well when it was finished. I know that even if I make the parts as accurate as I can, there will be things that aren't compensated for in the program. Things like lost motion or varying steam pressure etc.
I am not inquiring about producing the parts directly from Charlie's program. I just want the basic geometric points that result in an efficient, smooth valve motion. I have been programing, setting up and running CNC machines now for 23 years (how time flies) and I will write my own CNC programs either manually (on my computer or directly at the machine keyboard) or with my CAD CAM program to produce the actual components.

Bruce Mowbray
TMB Manufacturing and Locomotive Works
1 1/2" Scale & 2 1/2" Scale (Narrow Gauge) Live Steamer

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:21:17 EDT
From: PrototypeB@aol.com

Subject: Re: Finally Finished Caboose-nice

Hi Doug
This "doll" is 15" tall, and in 2 1/2" scale, that's 6". It says on the back - 1995 FIBRE CRAFT Materials Corp. Made in China, of course.

That is all I can do for you. I think I bought it in a sewing/ crafts store.

Good luck,

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:38:13 EDT
From: PrototypeB@aol.com

Subject: Re: West Side see-thru

Hi Jim,
Yes, I know about the interior.
Basic chic, before that was stylish.
My Caboose will have a bunk, storage, seats, etc.
But no interior "finish or planking...just nice raw weathered wood!

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:29:32 -0400
From: "Bruce Mowbray"

Subject: Re: Recommendations for books on 7.5" track and roadbed procedures

I too recommend the "Engineering Handbook for Recreational Railroaders". Mine was purchased thru Railroad Supply Corp. For further reading, have a look at my homepage and click on 'construction page'. I have documented my track building and (time allowing) should have more info soon. (when do the clocks go back to standard time?). I will be building and installing a switch this week and I will post that on my page.

Bruce Mowbray
TMB Manufacturing and Locomotive Works
1 1/2" Scale & 2 1/2" Scale (Narrow Gauge) Live Steamer

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:01:31 -0000
From: frolinmarek@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Book Recommendations?


I would second David's suggestion to get a copy of the old "Railroad Supply Engineers Handbook". This small but VERY informative booklet has all sorts of details and proportions and measurements. This includes the Track Switch numbers, and length of "from point to frog" inches, and radius data, and track gauge proposed for curves.

It also has other data, like coupler heights and such. I a worth-while booklet.

I purchased my copy from our club here in Texas, the Southwest Live Steamers. I know they sell copies, and not sure if I remember correctly but I think for about $8-$10 maybe. Toss in $2 for postage and I'm sure the Secretary would mail you one.

Another "copy" of a older publication is available from Cannonball, in Oklahoma. I'm not sure of the name but its the only they have, and it is a bit older, but covers track laying information as well, along wioth other details like switches, gauges, and such. Not as detailed but similar info.

You can find it on their web-site, along with price. Again, that is for a photo-copy of the original, that they sell.

San Antonio, Texas

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:07:38 -0000
From: dlarrick@kbd-technic.com

Subject: Re: Is Charlie Dockstader's Program Accurate??


I used Charlie's program to design the Stephenson for my 2.5" freelance mogul, and I am now at the "well, I've built it so I hope it works" stage. A couple of weeks ago, I turned the wheels and watched the valve stems (with dummy cardboard valves) run over the ports for the first time. Just looking at where the wheels are in relation to where the valves are, all looks right. So far, so good, but the real test is in November when she gets on air for the first time.
Like you, I started from scratch and played with numbers. After several frustrating tries with no great improvements, I pulled out some old Little Engines 4-4-0 drawings and inputted the numbers.
According to the program, that is a pretty well designed gear with fairly symetric events from 65% cutoff up to 85%, so I just proportioned up everything to the size I needed, then started tweaking numbers from there. I think my events diagrams from the program look about as good as I can get (if only I could machine to those tolerances !!!).
I did find that slowing the program down to a crawl and zooming in with the steam graphics running really helped a lot. I also froze it at a few critical positions to study the numbers on the screen.
--Denis Larrick

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:19:13 -0000
From: cdhunter@centurytel.net

Subject: Re: Recommendations for books on 7.5" track and roadbed procedures

My thanks to all who responded to my question and my apologies for posting the question twice. Bill- I look forward to reading about the switch construction and installation on your railroad.

Best regards to all,
C. D. Hunter

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:47:27 +0000
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: Re: Re: Book Recommendations?

If this booklet is circulating via photocopies. Is it possible for someone to scan a copy? I too would like to obtain this information, but it's awkward to purchase internationally especially for such a small fee (Which I assume is to cover photocopying costs?)

Chris Draper
Winter Creek Railway
New Zealand

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:33:45 -0700
From: "Quentin Breen"

Subject: Re: Recommendations for books on 7.5" track and roadbed procedures


When I was in the planning stage at Train Mountain, I made it a point to visit every track on the West Coast to see how they prepared the right of way, built track and laid and ballasted track. The closest track to you is probably Kitsap Live Steamers in Port Orchard. Then you could visit British Columbia Society of Model Engineers in Burnaby, B.C. and Vancouver Island Model Engineers just north of Victoria, B.C. Of course, you could do worse than to spend a work week at Train Mountain where you would get hands on experience building, laying and ballasting 7 1/2" gauge track. See the work week/train meet schedule at www.trainmountain.org which also has links to the clubs mentioned above.

I strongly advise seeing other tracks. You will make enough mistakes of your own. Why make the same mistakes that other clubs have made as well?


Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:27:32 -0400
From: "Casy Jones"

Subject: (unknown)

Hi Everybody,

I need to find a qualified appraisor for live steam 7 1/2" equipment in the southeast Michigan area. I am going through a divorce, and the court is requiring the values for all my hobby stuff. Can anyone out there help me by providing name, address, phone#, email, etc of someone who the court will accept. I am also open to advice.

Need is urgent.

Jim Gould
Ann Arbor, MI

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:30:03 -0000
From: "Fallenhunter"

Subject: Re: (unknown)

I would check your local Live Steam Club, you should be able to find one on the net in about 2 minutes. Club, that is. Someone in the that club should know someone who can help you out.

Also, I wish you the best of luck in your legal procedings.

Dwayne Miller
Newbie Member:
North East Ohio Live Steamers
Medina County, Ohio, USA

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 04:56:19 -0400
From: locopart

Subject: Re: (unknown)


Why not talk to Marty Knox? He is a mutual friend of ours, and he is as qualified as anyone I know..and he is in your area...

Don Orr,
Suffolk, Va
FAX 757-255-7350
1-1/2", 2-1/2" and 3-3/4" scale steam locomotive accessories, gas burners, tender kits, and Allen parts

Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:09:22 -0000
From: "Nate Kline"

Subject: Mini Lucky 7?

Is there anyone out there that knows of this engine designed by Don Young and eventually made by Reeves? I know it is the 1.5" scale 7.25" or 7.5" re-gauged version of the Lucky 7 which was 1.5" scale and 3.5" gauge. Does Reeves still make drawings and parts for it? Has anyone ever built one, what is it like to build, is it a good runner, is it a good puller, etc.? I'd like all the details anyone can give me on the Mini-Lucky 7. I would also like to know the amount of cars and people the 1.5" scale, 7.25" gauge Mini-Lucky 7 live steam locomotive can pull on level track up to a 2.5% grade. I would also like to know how well it runs and handles and tracks. I would also like to know if you can sit on the tender or if you have to ride behind it. If you must ride behind, is it still easily operated, must you have to have those ugly extension rods sticking out all over the place? If anyone out there owns one of these engines or knows all about them, please let me know A.S.A.P. Thank you.

Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:09:58 -0500
From: Curtis Hustace

Subject: Re: Re: Book Recommendations?

What about "Master Railroad Builder" by Steve Booth?


Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:47:28 EDT
From: Jubilatede@aol.com

Subject: Re: Mini Lucky 7?

Incomplete response to your note re Mini #7. My buddy Ray Dwyer another retired sometime president of the Adirondack Live Steamers (also retired plumber) has been nibbling away on such a little beastie for the last several years. Progress has been slow lately interupted by a couple of hospitalizations. Chassis done as is copper boiler and many other odds and ends like the tank truck. Obviously hasn't been run yet.

Running joke between us as #7 is my all time favorite engine as I worked on getting here ready for her last hurrah up in Bridgton in 1941, so I,ve asked Ray to leave me the parts in his will even though the frame is inside the drivers and not properly sperating the wheels and thew counterweights.

Ray isn,t on the web so I'll print your note and give it to him for whatever comments he cares to make. What is your snail mailaddress?

Cam Brown

Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:13:49 +0100
From: "Nigel Musson"

Subject: Subject: : Locomotive Handling, Trailer for carrying and Lifting Trolley's

Can I please say thank you for all the responses to my enquiry. At the moment I am still collating and considering the response, but I am very grateful for the effort and thought that has obviousley been put into many of the responses, both on and off message. Thankyou.

Nigel M

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 06:48:54 -0000
From: "Chris Allan"

Subject: Re: 15" gauge carriage designs wanted


Check out the HRC designs and Hillcrest Shops

Good Luck!
Chris Allan

Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 04:43:37 EDT
From: GMEYER6103@AOL.Com

Subject: Re: Re: 15" gauge carriage designs wanted

Thank you, Gary!