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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:37:30 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: RE: Re: Riding Railway University -- Price to high!



I'll third that - Have made a point of ordering my copy this morning because of the "too expensive" comments - and it is significantly more expensive when I convert to New Zealand Dollars!

Suggest moans about price should continue as they may help sell more!

Chris Draper
Winter Creek Tramline
Auckland, New Zealand

Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 01:49:59 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Boyd Butler"

Subject: What is it and where do I get it?



Ok I know Rudy will jump on this, what did I miss? Where can I find out about this video that everyone wants? About cost, it seems no one wants to pay for someone's time when making a good product.
Let me know as I probably will get one also.
Boyd Butler

Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:17:12 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"

Subject: Re: dvd cost



I jumped right on it but my wife is holding them as a Christmas present also so can't see them to comment.
The list of presentations was just to great to pass up. I am still learning about steam and every nugget of info is a help.

Later; Tom

Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:19:41 -0000
From: "chevwilliam"

Subject: Re: What is it and where do I get it?



Archieve message #4663 contains the original announcement and link to the publishing site.
Best Regards,
William J. Stewart.

Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 18:46:12 -0000
From: "johansteam"

Subject: Re: Riding Railway University --seminars DVDs [ad]



Hi Greg,
Is there any possibility that I may pay via "VISA" or "BidPay" for the two "RRU" dvd's??? Unfortunately does "PayPal" not exist in our Country....i.e. South Africa. I am really interested in both the DVD's.
Please let me know. Either here or preferable to my e-mail address.
Kind Regards,
Johan.

Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:14:20 -0800
From: Greg Robinson

Subject: Re: Riding Railway University -- Price to high!



Gentlemen,

Thank you all for your kind words and your support. The nay-sayers and the complainers could easily take the wind out of one's sails (many of our vendors have disappeared for this reason). But it does make it worth it, when the positive comments weigh in.

All the Best,
Greg

7+ RAILROADER
The Grand Scales Quarterly
Robinson & Associates
P.O. Box 8953,
Red Bluff, CA 96080
USA
530-527-0141
fax 530-527-0420

Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:14:04 -0000
From: "johansteam"

Subject: Re: Riding Railway University -- Price to high!



Greg,
I am "Thanking" you for thanking us "kind" gentlemen, but I would like to ask you to be so "kind" as to reply to my question I've put to you, in the previous posting. (Prior to this one of yours)
Johan

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:30:03 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: The Winter Creek Tram



Just started to put my narrow gauge line on the family website at www.thefunnyfarm.co.nz

The website has been a fantastic project because I have been doing it with my two daughters, and as any parent knows finding a project to share with your kids is always deeply satisfying.

Mine is a humble little system all built with my own labour.

I hope it is inspiration to others with nothing more than hand tools and a welder.

Chris Draper
Winter Creek Tramline
Auckland, New Zealand

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:54:27 -0500
From: "Pat Turner"

Subject: RE: The Winter Creek Tram



Very nice web page. I like the track plan map, it is well done. It is a point to loop line, do you plan to add another loop at the other end?

Pat Turner, Pres. CSRR
http://www.CedarSpringsRR.com

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:32:58 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: RE: The Winter Creek Tram



Thank you Pat - I like your website too.

Unfortunately the gully on my side of the boundary gets a little narrow and steep for a loop at the top end so it'll have to stay point to loop until the neighbour can be persuaded to become a believer or sell to someone who is!

Chris

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 21:06:02 -0500
From: "Pat Turner"

Subject: RE: The Winter Creek Tram



Ah, thanks. You just missed the update I did on it, I just finished it up. Added some roster pictures and a real Logo for the RR on the front page as well as another one on the Goals page.

Warning, Ad follows:
You can also now buy Cedar Springs RR shirts, hats, etc... See the links area for the Cedar Springs Shirt Shack. I really just did so I can get my own shirts, but anyone is welcome to buy some if they so chose...

Pat Turner, Pres. CSRR
http://www.CedarSpringsRR.com

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 14:09:05 -0800
From: Peter Moseley

Subject: History of 2.5'/foot Consolidation Project now on the web



If you're interested, we've made an addition to the website that is a narrative our our project to create four 2.5"/foot consolidation locomotives.

It can be seen at my website

www.homepage.mac.com/petermoseley

under "Consolidation Project History Download"

There are two choices, either HTML to read the narrative in your browser, or as a Microsoft Word document.

Regards and Seasons Greetings

Peter Moseley

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 14:11:50 -0800
From: Peter Moseley

Subject: Consolidations



George:
You will get this through the Yahoo group but in response to yours of Nov 27:

If you're interested, we've made an addition to the website that is a narrative our our project to create four 2.5"/foot consolidation locomotives.

It can be seen at my website

www.homepage.mac.com/petermoseley

under "Consolidation Project History Download"

There are two choices, either HTML to read the narrative in your browser, or as a Microsoft Word document.

Regards and Seasons Greetings

Peter Moseley

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 17:58:25 -0500
From:

Subject: Tram Clarification



Is there a real difference between a "tram" and a railroad? What is the line of demarcation?

Reason I ask...while studying RR's in the Okefenokee Swamp, some call them trams, others railroads. Most of the track is build on trestle or pier columns.

Scott Perry
"Stumpy"

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:35:45 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: RE: Tram Clarification



I'm not exactly sure Scott but I have always understood it to be one of weight. IE a lightweight, possibly temporary track is referred to as a tramway. In my own case, the timber railways of New Zealand were referred to as bush tramways. Some of these line reached an immense mileage, traversed huge viaducts and carried heavy weights (some of the US manufactured Lidgerwood steam haulers weighed upwards of 90 tons) - but were still called tramways.

For an idea of some of the "lokeys" (pronounced low-kees - as the narrow gauge bush engines were called), that roved the New Zealand bush - check out http://www.bushtramwayclub.com/ which is preserving an important piece of our heritage. (Also http://www.ironhorse.inet.net.nz/bushrail1.htm has a couple of interesting photos).

Finally a photo of the Percy-burn viaduct http://www.backpack-newzealand.com/gallery/Waitutu-Tramway-and-Port-Craig/22_percy_burn_viaduct2

Built to carry logs out of a remote corner of the country, this is believed to be the largest wooden viaduct still standing in the world. It's a 7 hour walk into the bush but well worth the effort!

Chris Draper
Winter Creek Tramway
Auckland, New Zealand

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 19:27:06 -0800
From: "Bob & Faith"

Subject: quiet zone



Good evening,

This may be my idea or someone elses. Have you ever noticed how LOUD it is when you blow down your steamer at the end of the operating day. It can really affect your hearing after a while. Give this a try. How about hooking up small lawn mower mufflers on each side of your boiler. You could use air line quick disconnects. Just leave the connections on the loco and when the time comes connect up the muffler and let her rip. You might be surprised at how quiet it is and you will not be annoying to others near by.

Best regards to all,

Robert N. Bowman

Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:21:00 -0500
From: "Pat Turner"

Subject: Holiday Wishes



How about some proper Holiday Wishes:

http://users2.ev1.net/~on30/Xmass/merry1.htm

Pat Turner, Pres. CSRR
http://www.CedarSpringsRR.com

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:34:16 -0400
From: "Oliver T."

Subject: Re: Tram Clarification



An interesting bit of synchronicity, as I had just finished thumbing through a copy of 'Railway Gazette' from January 5, 1968. Therein on page 15 was an article about a new 'tramway' being built to haul limesand from Coffin Bay in South Australia.
In the third paragraph of the article it says;

'Technically the Coffin Bay line is known as a 'tramway', because a legal twist prevents anyone but the government from operating 'railways' in South Australia'

This may have changed since 1968, but might explain some of the terminology...

By the way, the details of the Coffin Bay line are so bizarre from a geological standpoint that any modeller reproducing the details would be laughed out of any contest or club event...

Oliver T.
Gritty, NB

Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:34:21 -0500
From: Arno Martens

Subject: 15" Pacific by Krauss-Maffei



CROSS-POSTED

Did you guys know that Krauss-Maffei had built 15" gauge Pacifics?
1925 3
1928 5
1952 12


http://www.dlok.de/cat14.htm

I know of one at the RH&D, but that leaves anoter 19 locos.
Arno

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:55:29 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: RE: 15" Pacific by Krauss-Maffei



I seem to remember there are two at Alan Blooms museum in the UK.
Recall these being mentioned in his book "Steam Alive"

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:45:02 -0800
From: Trevor Heath

Subject: Steam on the Meter Gauge, Kenya December 2004



Attached link contains a few images from my visit to Kenya last week.

http://www.livesteaming.com/Kenya.htm

Check back after the weekend for some narrative, background information and additional images.

Full resolution available for publication on request.

Regards,

TH

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:59:56 -0000
From: "chevwilliam"

Subject: Notice of passing of Jack Sessums



I received the following notice via e-mail this morning:

Subject: Bad News

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:38:15 EST

Jack Sessums passed away Wednesday evening about 6:30.

Services will be on the 29th or 30th.

I'll keep you posted.

Our circle of friends has a big hole in it.

Jim Kreider


Another Live Steamer gone.

Best Regards,
William J. Stewart.

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:43:04 -0800
From: Trevor Heath

Subject: RE: Steam on the Meter Gauge, Kenya December 2004



Link below has now been updated with additional images and narrative.

http://www.livesteaming.com/Kenya.htm

Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to all

TH

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:13:46 -0600
From: "Tom Casper"

Subject: RE: Digest Number 1133



Thanks for the update. I heard he was real sick with cancer. He will be missed.

Later, tom casper

Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:25:04 -0000
From: "chevwilliam"

Subject: Service for Jack Sessums



I received the following information via e-mail today:

Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:13:51 EST
Subject: Jack Sessums Service

The service for Jack Sessums will be held at 1PM on Wednesday, December 29, at the Calvary Chapel of Redlands.
The church is at 9700 Alabama Street, Redlands, (California) at the Southwest corner of the intersection of San Bernardino Avenue and Alabama Street.


My understanding is that he had Pancreatic Cancer and was on Chemotherepy. I do not know the exact cause of death.

He will be missed.

Best Regards,
William J. Stewart.

Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:54:39 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: Harry Haas' Brake System



I have just received my copies of the Riding Railway University DVD's - and I can highly recommend them. I have not reviewed all of the material yet, but what I have seen is absolute gold and I am certain these DVD's will recoup their cost in short order.

I have watched Harry Haas' session on brake systems and he mentions the brake actuators are made by 'clipper' and the actual arrangement of these on the trucks was not as clear as I would have liked - does anyone know where I can obtain these clipper cylinders - and also where I can view a general arrangement of the rigging details?

Chris Draper
Winter Creek Tramway, Auckland, New Zealand
http://www.thefunnyfarm.co.nz/WinterCreekPlan.htm

Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:08:29 -0000
From: "chevwilliam"

Subject: Re: Harry Haas' Brake System



I Believe the Cylinders are purchased through Clippard Minimatics, Inc., a maker of small pneumatic controls components.
The LocaL Distributer in Burbank, California, USA is Roger Howell Company, on Olive Blvd.
Best Regards,
William J. Stewart.

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:14:58 +1300
From: "Chris Draper"

Subject: RE: Re: Harry Haas' Brake System



Thanks William & Bob for your help. I have located a local distributor here in Auckland from
http://www.clippard.com/

NO wonder I could not find 'clipper' on the net!

Regards

Chris Draper